I didn't stick any words in any mouth.
So, if there's anything i mis-attributed to Vector, it's in that post, because that's the one she claims was attacking her, and it's the first one in this arc that I addressed to her. Here's what I wrote:
There are also patriarchal stereotypes that ... women are the weaker sex and need to be protected, whereas men do not. Surely, these stereotypes play into society's narrative that women require external intervention / special support, whilst men can go hang themselves (i mean that almost literally).
My point with the example, is that the observation that murder rates by females has declined may well be because they don't feel "trapped" could easily apply to men as well. Those i listed - house, kids, reputation, things were just examples of threats a woman could use to control someone. In real, individual cases, there are many other things people use to control each other, those are just the "cliched" ones for women->men, which I used to illustrate things. All of them are based on instilling fear as a prime motivator - not "challenging the male ego".
Fear of homelessness, fear of losing emotional attachment, fear of having your reputation destroyed / losing all your friends / being socially ostracized / going to jail. These are all likely outcomes of those specific threats I outlined.
I guess you're entitled to analyse "having your whole life go down the toilet" as "losing one's male privilege". But that doesn't make sense because the "unprivileged" class in this analysis - the average woman, does not as a whole suffer from those problems - they are not homeless, they are not cut off from loved-ones, they do not have their reputation destroyed, cut off from social support, and are not threatened with jail.
Now - i wrote "society's narrative" not "Vector's narrative".
"My point with the example" - this is introducing
my opinion.
"challenging the male ego" is related to the idea that male privilege is all about male ego.
"I outlined" is where I am expressing my opinion.
"[male] privilege" is Vector's line, and "having your whole life go down the toilet" is my poetic description of losing everything (regardless of gender).
But, nowhere here did i claim "vector doesn't want support for men". I just objected to her characterization of problems for men. Now, i can't find anything in there which directly makes any claim that Vector said anything she didn't say. All i did was to say "I think those things are actually very serious" in response to Vector saying "those problems aren't as serious as you claim".
As I have said some three times now, I was explaining one of the non-sexist reasons why there are more battered women's shelters.
Now, i never said
you were sexist, nor did I make a major point that sexism was the cause/problem here.. I just backed up my original argument that lack of support for half the population was becoming detrimental. I never questioned "why" the problem exists - I just said there is a problem. Actually the link you provided from Wikipedia on psychological abuse paints the picture that professional psychologists don't take female->male abuse seriously. When the professionals aren't doing it right, there's no reason to think that society does
anything in a non-sexist way. And it's kinda hard to grasp how we go from "everything is sexist" when women are short-changed to "clearly sexism didn't play a role here" when it's men behind the 8 ball.
I have. Absolutely no. Idea. Where you would get that notion from.
From the assertion that women husband murderers are acting in self defense, no caveat. Plus for men you stated it "couldn't possibly be self-defense".
Also from the assertion that male abusers get the same treatment as female victims. It
really sounds like something out of a pamphlet you get in your first year of college. Plus the all-or-nothing "men are in command" line:
Because the patriarchal system is pretty much shorthand for "what fucks women over?"
Men are given a power over women that people should not have over other people -> women suffer (and yes, also men , who may not enjoy dominating people but are demanded to anyway)-> "hey, here are all the ways in which this power system, although diminishing, is still screwing with folks."
Ahh, so men only suffer because they have
too much power. Literally every last individual man, by the sound of things. Maybe these are just sound bites, maybe you're not serious, but it sends a mixed message.