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[Nerjin]

Public Service Announcement:  WIFOM is the last refuge of a cornered scum.

Hi I'm the worst player to have in any mafia game ever... How is what Ford just said WIFOM?

[Dariush]

Ford, don't do such appeal to emotions, especially on this scale. Either you're scum and people will never believe you again or you're town and everyone will feel bad. If it makes you feel better, I don't even remember what the tie you're talking about was about. Besides, if you're town, what do you care about losing your green? If trailflips still work, we'll know you're town and all you lose is your power. If you're scum, we win.

Also, any sympathy I had for you evaporated when you decided that saying a prayer IC after a heartfelt rant OOC was a good idea. This both undermines the sincerity and... roleplaying? Really?

Nerjin, I know I promised to believe you, but I can't. You are tunneling absent Wuba, who we didn't even know was scum before your post (not that you're saying the truth), after refusing to even divulge the role name and powers of the already-claimed-scum Ottofar. Also, your attack on Solifuge due to misreading who was claiming third party (which also leads to the small fact that you missed the last, oh, let's say third of the game which revolved about ZU's claim) stinks of desperation. And stupidity, but mostly desperation.

Oh, and your wincon stinks of bullshit. Snuff town greens? Even though we can just immediatly relight them? And even if we can't, all we lose is our powers, being able to continue voting? And you still have your greens lit, because if you don't, you lose? Which would be kinda visible to everyone? Yeah, pull the other one.

[Onyxjew944]

I'm sorry I assumed you'd linked me to the RIGHT GOD DAMN POST! I must be a fucking moron! I'm a god damn idiot! HOW FUCKING DARE I?

Onyxjew is out; he was already confirmed to have the god Telmorin, and thus is Town.

Emphasis on "Confirmed to have Telmorin." It was the right post, as nowhere was Okami's inspect invoked. Do calm down.

Web quit, Ottofar's confirmed scum, I quit. WE CAN'T WIN AND THAT DOESN'T SABOTAGE THE GAME! That sabotages a TEAM! THere's a major difference. Besides it's the last day! God fucking damn you!

So you're telling me that if a game that revolved around two opposing teams struggling for the victory would not be sabotaged by one of those teams walking out of the stadium?


Yeah... these blatant calls of desperation and pathetic have gotten old. I could probably dredge up a few examples, but I'm lazy. Ah, fuck it. This is too easy to not play around.

That doesn't make sense, because Wuba is a town roleblocker. The third scum would have to be Onyx.

Heh. Hahaha. I think I've been the most confirmed person in this game, and I don't even speak half the time! Seriously, accusing me without the slightest shred of proof or argument about it, and then abandoning that line of inquiry within minutes. I have to admit, I expected better of you.

'Kay, I'm done.


Snuff Ford Green
Snuff Nerjin Green

You know, Nerjin, what would really help make us believe you, is not badgering the town in a direction it doesn't want to go. Giving up Ottofar entirely would help as well. You never know, we might start reading your posts then.

[Toaster]

Nerjin:

Public Service Announcement:  WIFOM is the last refuge of a cornered scum.

Hi I'm the worst player to have in any mafia game ever... How is what Ford just said WIFOM?

I meant you and Ottofar.


Onyx:

That doesn't make sense, because Wuba is a town roleblocker. The third scum would have to be Onyx.

Heh. Hahaha. I think I've been the most confirmed person in this game, and I don't even speak half the time! Seriously, accusing me without the slightest shred of proof or argument about it, and then abandoning that line of inquiry within minutes. I have to admit, I expected better of you.

What besides the word of a dead claimed third party do you have confirming you?

[Captain Ford]

Ford, don't do such appeal to emotions, especially on this scale. Either you're scum and people will never believe you again or you're town and everyone will feel bad. If it makes you feel better, I don't even remember what the tie you're talking about was about.

I hope everyone DOES feel bad. Everyone has been playing terribly and many have been complete jerks while also being incredibly wrong. (Solifuge is a HUGE offender)

You wouldn't have gotten this far without my help. If I were scum, you would still have no idea what was going on.

Besides, if you're town, what do you care about losing your green? If trailflips still work, we'll know you're town and all you lose is your power. If you're scum, we win.

THIS IS THE LAST DAY. This is the LAST CHANCE. My smoke trail doesn't matter because THE GAME WILL END. How have you not figured this out yet?

Losing my green doesn't matter because I won't lose anything. The game ends at the end of the day, so it doesn't matter if my green stays lit or not.

But if the town chooses wrong, then we lose. This is not about me. This is about winning or losing, plain and simple.

I still believe there's another third party in this game besides ZU and the scumteam. Vector's hint clearly indicated that there were 2 and 3 candles that were a threat to us. The group of 3 candles was likely the scumteam's whites. The 2 others may have been their greens, but it could also have been a 2-man cult.

From the beginning, my suspicion is that this is a story where the gods arrange a contest to decide a long-standing feud, but the game turns bad when an unexpected third party corrupts the contest -- remember when I asked about demons or third parties? That's what I was thinking of.

I think we're about to lose because of this (emphasis mine):

“Solve the riddle of the Candles. Find the Spies.”

“Only then can I be free.”

The priest's release is the signal for our victory. He's on the verge of death. If we don't save him, we lose.

I don't think this is a game where the town wins simply if the scum lose, and vice versa. I believe this is a game where all sides can lose.

...maybe I just don't understand your perspective. Because from my perspective, all I've seen anyone doing this game is making conscious decisions to lose, and that's been driving me crazy. I've had my hands full just trying to manage all of you.

Also, any sympathy I had for you evaporated when you decided that saying a prayer IC after a heartfelt rant OOC was a good idea. This both undermines the sincerity and... roleplaying? Really?

How does it undermine my sincerity?

And yes, roleplaying. Yes really.


I'm pretty sure everyone is going to lose, and there's nothing I can do about it anymore. I think Vector's absence is really, really crippling, and I don't feel it's fair for the game to end without her input (but no one seems to care).

I believe Nerjin is genuine, but ... ehh ... I've said it all already.

[Dariush]

So basically, your entire argument is based on, in addition to appeal to emotion, the fact that the game WILL end today and numerous hilarious misreadings of various flavour over the course of the game. No, Vector's inspection does not mean we have to snuff whites. I don't discard the possibility, but if it indeed happens to be so, Vector's inspection won't have anything to do with it. Vector's inspection does not say anything even remotely approaching... 2-man cult? That's five (six counting ZU) anti-town in a 13-player game. Besides, why cult? Why have people been pushing their cult agenda for the entire game? It makes no sense either in-game or mechanic-wise. The whole suggestion is an abomination of several hastily strung together asspulls and puts you even further into the red on the scummeter. And finally, considering that the priest isn't physically constrained, 'free' in this case may entirely mean 'dead'. Well, that or... ascend somehow? I don't know, but there's really no other way to read it.

[Captain Ford]

Dariush: Thank you. That was actually constructive.

I can't believe there actually is anyone who agrees with me that a cult makes no sense.

I finally started thinking there could be a cult if there was a demon who could dominate a person's mind, or could take over a person's body. There's no way they could change our religion but they could kill and subvert us.

I think the priest's bleeding and obvious pain on Day 4 indicates that what's happening to him is bad. It seemed pretty clear at the beginning that "free" was in relation to him being held by the power of the gods. Physical or not, it's clear that if we don't win today, then we lose.

But yeah...all right. I guess you're right about the scumteam, but the game has felt horribly unbalanced from the beginning. I still feel like there's a puzzle left that we haven't figured out, because nothing so far has made sense. The scumteam is horribly underpowered no matter how you look at it. They haven't had enough time to accomplish anything.

Maybe the scum's chances all revolved around lighting Ottofar's candle and activating his ability. But that still seems really weak.

If you're right, then the threat to the high priest comes from our gods and not from Morasadis. Which only serves to emphasize that we will lose unless we accomplish our objective.


Snuffing town greens makes sense as a scum objective, though. What did they do for the first thee nights? They snuffed town greens. Not whites. Greens. I don't think Nerjin is lying about that.

That doesn't make sense, because Wuba is a town roleblocker. The third scum would have to be Onyx.

Heh. Hahaha. I think I've been the most confirmed person in this game, and I don't even speak half the time! Seriously, accusing me without the slightest shred of proof or argument about it, and then abandoning that line of inquiry within minutes. I have to admit, I expected better of you.

That's umm...wrong. Your name came from the list of people who have lit green candles, which was compiled by Solifuge. If you'll notice, every read I've provided on you indicates that I believe you to be town.

*sigh* I feel like everybody is only reading half the thread.

[Onyxjew944]

Onyx:

That doesn't make sense, because Wuba is a town roleblocker. The third scum would have to be Onyx.

Heh. Hahaha. I think I've been the most confirmed person in this game, and I don't even speak half the time! Seriously, accusing me without the slightest shred of proof or argument about it, and then abandoning that line of inquiry within minutes. I have to admit, I expected better of you.

What besides the word of a dead claimed third party do you have confirming you?

Current Scum Candidates:
Onyxjew is out; he was already confirmed to have the god Telmorin, and thus is Town.

Onyxjew944 - I feel fairly confident that he's town.

Beyond Solifuge a few times throughout the past ten pages, Captain Ford's occasional comment, and the alignment cop, no one.

That doesn't make sense, because Wuba is a town roleblocker. The third scum would have to be Onyx.

Heh. Hahaha. I think I've been the most confirmed person in this game, and I don't even speak half the time! Seriously, accusing me without the slightest shred of proof or argument about it, and then abandoning that line of inquiry within minutes. I have to admit, I expected better of you.

That's umm...wrong. Your name came from the list of people who have lit green candles, which was compiled by Solifuge. If you'll notice, every read I've provided on you indicates that I believe you to be town.

*sigh* I feel like everybody is only reading half the thread.

Yes. Almost every read you've had said I was Town. Which just makes tha─Wait, I think my mind finally realized what you were saying. You weren't stating that as a transitive property meaning I'm scum, you were saying it as in "If Wubba is X, then Onyx would be scum. Which is impossible." As narcissistic as that paraphrase sounds, I think that was the meaning, albeit with more patting me on the back. My bad, Captain.

[Captain Ford]

Onyx: You have somehow retained your sanity. I am jealous.

[Mephansteras]

The Scribe's Tally Sheet
Snuff Captain Ford Green: Dariush, notquitethere, Ottofar, webadict, Solifuge, Toaster
Snuff Nerjin Green: Dariush, Nerjin, notquitethere, webadict, Solifuge, Tiruin, Toaster
Snuff Nerjin White: Captain Ford
Snuff Ottofar White: Captain Ford
Snuff webadict Green: Nerjin
Snuff Tiruin Green: Ottofar



  The final votes are cast and Captain Ford's and Nerjin's Green candles flicker and go out.
 
  The glow around the High Priest intensifies for a bit, and then fades. A glowing figure is all that remains of him, and it has grown twice the size of a man.
 
  A voice eminates from it. Layered voice upon voice, as if many were speaking the same words at once.
 
  "You have failed. All of you. You were given all the tools you needed, and yet none of you managed to do what was asked of you."
 
  The room goes very dim, with every light in the room fading down to a spark. Only the figure remains, towering over you in the gloom. You find yourselves frozen in place, unable to step off of your disks.
 
  "So be it. The conflict will endure. The War shall continue for generations to come."
 
  The rooms shudders and the earth shifts beneath you. Great cracks appear in the walls and you are all thrown from you feet. Screams echo about the chamber, you can hear shouts and boots thumping outside the chamber as the lesser priests and acolytes flee the crumbling building.
 
  The figure dissapears from view as masonry collapses all about you.
 
  A chunk of ceiling falls down upon the ring of candles, and the last thing any of you see is the last light of the room flicker out. 





Game has Ended!


I will post the initial role PMs and the night actions, and then I'll explain what was actually going on in this game.


Spy Chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/iXKnbGQtuUbYN

Spoiler: Role PMs (click to show/hide)

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Spies of Morasadis

The three of you are Spies from the Neighboring kingdom of Morasadis. You infiltrated Lomonthian temples long ago, and have worked hard to make your way to the Captial and the chance to spy on your ancient enemies from within the Great Temple itself. In truth you serve the Twin Gods of Light and Darkness of Morasadis, and it is their power you feel flowing through you.

While you are not quite certain what is going on here, you do sense an opportunity to strike a great blow at the false gods of Lomonth. You must Remove the power of all of the Lomonthian Priests while maintaining your own to win.

During the Night one of you may sneak into the main chamber and Snuff any one lit candle. The one who performs this action cannot perform any other action that night.

Nerjin   

 You feel blessed by the Light Twin, and have the following Night Action: Eyes of Light - You may light any one candle at night

RangerCado   

 You feel blessed by the Dark Twin, and have the following Night Action: Breath of Darkness - You may choose a candle to Appear dark for the next day, even though it is still lit

Ottofar

 You are a humble servant of the Twin gods, and have no granted powers.   

 [PM] You feel a deeper connection with the gods, though you are unsure as to what this means.

 [Dance of Light and Shadow] - Randomly effects all candles. (Night action, one-shot)

Your training allows the three of you to communicate with one another without being detected by others.

--

Onyxjew944   

 Though you serve all of the gods, you started your career with Telmorin and feel closest to him.

 You can feel his presence here now, and with it you gain the following ability: Mastery of Law - Once per day you may Nullify a vote. That vote is removed and may not be placed back on that Candle

--

Captain Ford   

 Though you serve all of the gods, you started your career with Avos and feel closest to him.

 You can feel his presence here now, and with it you gain the following ability: Strength - Your vote cannot be altered by others

--

Toaster    Derala

 Though you serve all of the gods, you started your career with Derala and feel closest to her.

 You can feel her presence here now, and with it you gain the following ability: Deep slumber - You may Block another player from acting this Night

--

Dariush   

 Though you serve all of the gods, you started your career with Andoras and feel closest to him.

 You can feel him presence here now, and with it you gain the following ability: Cleansing Rain - Once per day you may completely clear the vote tally.

--

Tiruin   

 Though you serve all of the gods, you started your career with Nirian and feel closest to her.

 You can feel her presence here now, and with it you gain the following ability: Nourish - You may make a candle burn twice as bright, requiring a full majority of players in order to snuff it (once per day)

--

notquitethere    Telmorin - Power

 Though you serve all of the gods, you started your career with Telmorin and feel closest to him.

 [Authority] - You may declare whether Hammers are in Effect or not.

-- 

Remuthra    Avos - Power

 Though you serve all of the gods, you started your career with Avos and feel closest to him.

 [Master the Flame] - You may Light or Extinguish any candle (Night action)

-- 

Vector    Derala - Power

 Though you serve all of the gods, you started your career with Derala and feel closest to her.

 You feel a strong presence, a deeper connection to the gods than you have ever felt before.

 [Seeker of Secrets] - You may determine the purpose of a Candle (night action)

-- 

Solifuge    Nirian - Power

 Though you serve all of the gods, you started your career with Nirian and feel closest to her.

 [Preservation] - You may prevent all powers from being used during one Day or Night phase. (one-shot)

--

Okami No Rei    True Gods

 Though you were once a loyal priest the years have begun to weigh upon you. And with those years has come doubt. You know that the gods exist, their power is unquestionable. And yet...you feel that there is something false.

 The other cultures near you all have their own stories, their own gods. And all of these have power. So which is true? All of them? That cannot be, for there are too many discrepancies. Too many stories that cannot fit.

 No...there is a deeper truth.

 The gods are not beings, but mere characters in a great Play. You should be worshipping them, no, you should be worshipping the actors!

 You find here an opportunity to show the others the truth. And yet, if you simply tell them, they will ignore you at best and decry you as a heretic at the worst! No...you must show them.

 The Teal candles are the key. You can sense it. When all of them are lit, then true Wisdom will be revealed to all.

 Your great insight has given you the following Night Action: Pierce the Veil - Learn the Role of another player

 
 

Spoiler: Night 1 (click to show/hide)

Captain Ford    1    1        Avos                    Blocked

 You head off to your room for the night. Your sleep is unusually deep, and an acolyte has to throw water on your face to awaken you the next day. Nothing really seems wrong, however.

Okami No Rei    1    1    1    True Gods                Inspect Vector    Priestess of Derala

 You sit in your room and focus your mind inward. You feel yourself falling through the layers of reality, and soon you feel that you have Pierced the Veil. Your mind's eye turns towards Vector. You see a glowing sign of Derala above her head. A great dark eye can be felt behind her, and you sense that secrets are being revealed to her.

Ottofar    1        1    Twin - Power                Snuff Toaster's Green    Snuffs

 You sneak out into the main room while everyone slumbers. The priest on duty has wandered off to tend to another room, and while he is gone you slip over to the candles. Summoning the power of the Twin Gods you focus upon Toaster's Green candle, and its light flickers for a moment before going out.

 Hearing footsteps, you quickly return to your room.

RangerCado    1    1        Twin                Cloak Ottofar's white candle    Cloaks

 You sit in the middle of the floor in your room. Summoning the essence of the Darkness around you with a low chant to the Dark Twin you wrap yourself in the comforting shadows. With a whisper and a swirling gesture you fling the shadows out to Covor Ottofar's White Candle in darkness. May it spread much confusion amongst your enemies.

Toaster    1    1        Derala                Block Captain Ford    Blocks, feels power fade

 Sitting in your room you bring out a small handful of fine sand from a pouch in your desk. You swirl the sands on the table, a prayer to Derala falling continuously from your lips. A final focused thought, the image of Captain Ford in your mind, and it is done. He will sleep long and deep tonight.

 During the night you wake up with a feeling of loss. The Goddess does not seem so close now, and you feel that you have lost the power that she granted you.

Vector    1    1    1    Derala - Power                Investigate own Teal Candle    Learn Teal info

 You stare at your Teal Candle for a bit before retireing to your room for the night. It's image burns in your mind, and you sleep with it there behind the lids of your eyes. You awaken to it as well, but with more knowledge and certainty about it.

 The Teal Candle gives you your connection to your goddess, though it does give you your power. You feel that it is helpful, but will not be necessary in rooting out the spies.

 

Spoiler: Night 2 (click to show/hide)

Dariush    1    1        Andoras                    Loses power

 You wake up in the middle of the night with a feeling of loss. Your god feels withdrawn, and you sense that you can no longer use the power he had granted you.

Nerjin    1    1        Twin                light Ottofar Green    Lights

 You sneak off into the main chamber while the rest of the Temple sleeps or is occupied elsewhere. The High Priest still floats there, white glow surrounding him. But his eyes are closed, and he seems not to take notice of you. Carefully you step forward and invoke the power of the Light Twin to bring flame to Ottofar's Green Candle. It bursts into life with a cheerful dance. You smile a bit and then quickly leave the chamber before anyone spots you.

   

Okami No Rei    1    1    1    True Gods                Pierce the Veil - Dariush    Learn's role

You sit in your room and focus your mind inward. You fall through the layers of reality once again, and soon you feel that you have Pierced the Veil. Your mind's eye turns towards Dariush. You see a glowing sign of Andoras above his head. Sheets of rain fall around him, and the smell of clean spring air surrounds you. After a bit you return to your body to ponder what you have learned.

Ottofar    0        1    Twin - Power        White is cloaked        snuff Dariush Green    Snuffs, Gains Power

Once again you sneak off into the main chamber, carefully eluding the Priest on duty. Focusing the power of your gods upon Dariush's green candle you see it flicker and go out. Your task done you quickly return to your room.

As you make your morning prayers to the gods you sense their presence draw closer. You feel gifted, and sense that a new power is available to you. Once during the game, as a Night Action, you may perform the Dance of Light And Shadow, which will randomize the state of all of the candles.

RangerCado    1    1        Twin                Hide Dariush White    Hides

You sit in the middle of the floor in your room. Once again you bring forth the essence of the Darkness around you with a low chant to the Dark Twin and cloak yourself in shadows. With a whisper and a swirling gesture you fling the shadows out to Cover Dariush's White Candle in darkness.

Vector    1    1    1    Derala - Power                "Inspect Ottofar's white candle"    Gets candle info

Before leaving the chamber you stare at your Ottofar's White Candle for a bit. It's image burns in your mind, and you sleep with it there behind the lids of your eyes. You awaken to it as well, but with more knowledge and certainty about it.

The White Candle ties a string around his very soul. You feel a subtle menace from the Candle, and feel that it is a threat to the Temple.

 

[Mephansteras]

 

Spoiler: Night 3 (click to show/hide)

Nerjin    1    1        Twin                Light Ottofar White    Lights

Once again you sneak into the Main Chamber. Channeling the power of your god, you focus on Ottofar's White Candle. It springs back into flame, reaching a height of 4 inches briefly before subsiding back down to a normal flame.

You quickly return to your chambers before you are spotted.

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Okami No Rei    1    1    1    True Gods                Pierce the Veil - Onyxjew944    Inspects   

You sit in your room and focus your mind inward. You fall through the layers of reality once again, and soon you feel that you have Pierced the Veil. Your mind's eye turns towards Onyxjew944. You see the iron scales of Telmorin hovering behind him, and feel a great sense of judgement there. You return to your body, and ponder what you have learned.

--

           

Ottofar        1    1    Twin - Power        Unconscious            Wakes up

You awaken in the middle of the night. You find yourself in the Healing Hall. After assuring the priest on duty that you are fine you return to your room.

--

webadict    1    1        Twin                Snuff Vector Green    Snuffs               

You sneak back out into the Main Chamber while the Priest on Duty is off dealing with other things. There you quietly summon the power of the Dark God and focus upon Vector's Green Candle. It wanes, and then is extinguished. Your task done, you head back to your chambers before anyone can see you.

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Vector    1    1    1    Derala - Power                Inspect Dariush's Teal candle    Inspects, Loses power

Before leaving the chamber you stare at your Dariush's Teal Candle for a bit. Its image burns in your mind, and you sleep with it there behind the lids of your eyes. You awaken to it as well, but with more knowledge and certainty about it.

The Teal Candle thrums with untapped power, and you sense the presence of the gods behind it. However, you do not sense that it is necessary to defeat the spies.

As you ponder the implications of this a great feeling of loss comes over you. Derala has turned her eyes from you, and you know that you can no longer use her gift.

 

Spoiler: Night 4 (click to show/hide)

Captain Ford    1    1        Avos                        You may use your Strength of Will to shift another player's vote

 You feel things shift during the night.

 Your power has changed. Now, You may use your Strength of Will to shift another player's vote to where you wish it to go. That vote cannot be shifted again unless you allow it. You may only do this once per day.

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Nerjin    1    1        Twin                Light Ottofar White    Lights    Once per day you may select a Candle. This candle cannot be snuffed this day.

 Like the night before, you sneak off through the night to relight Ottofar's White Candle. No problems, and you return to your chamber with the deed done.

 However, as you try to fall asleep you feel things change. Your power shifts and morphs within you. Now, once per Day, you may select a Candle. This candle cannot be snuffed by votes that day.

--

Okami No Rei    1    1    1    True Gods                Pierce the Veil - Tiruin    Inspects    All votes to Light a Teal candle will be successful

 Your mind turns inward, and focuses upon Tiruin. She stands before the Hearth fires of Nirian, drawing nourishment from a soup pot. You return to yourself, and ponder what you have seen.

 But as the night grows old, you feel things shift. The True Gods draw closer, the illusions both more substantial yet less real. Their power shifts within you, changing to something else.

 Your power has changed. Now, as long as you are Conscious and your Green candle is lit, All votes to Light a Teal candle will be successful regardless of their standing in the end tally.

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Ottofar    1    1    1    Twin - Power        Unconscious               

 You awaken again in the middle of the night. You can only hope that this process doesn't continue each day.

 Things feel...different, now. Your connection to the gods has changed somehow, and with it your power. Now, you hold the power of Balance. As long as you are Conscious and your connection to your gods is strong, All players must vote to Light one candle and Snuff one candle each day. You may choose not to use this power if you wish.

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webadict    1    1        Twin                Snuff Vector White    Snuffs    Shatter - You may destroy an unlit candle

 Again you sneak off through the quiet halls and make your way to the Main Chamber. There you focus the powers of the dark god, and Vector's White candle sizzles for a moment before going dark. You slip back to your room, carefully avoiding a passing group of acolytes.

 As you setting in to sleep, you feel things shift. Your power changes within you. Now, once each night, you can Shatter an unlit candle. (Note that this must be a different candle from the one your team targets that night)

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Tiruin    1    1        Nirian                        Night Action - You may choose an Unconsious Player. They will be Active for the next day

 You awaken in the middle of the night. Things seem to have...changed in some way. You can feel that your power is now different. Now, each night you may choose an Unconscious Player and they will be Active for the next day.

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Vector        1    1    Derala - Power                Inspect Okami's white    Inspects, Falls unconscious    Oracle - If you Green and Teal candles are both lit you may ask a Question of Derala each night.

 Okami's candle burns in your mind. You reach out to it, and it is...more real than any other candle. Somehow it has more weight and presence than it should. However, you do not feel that is necessary for you to stop the Spies.

 As you lie in bed pondering this, you feel a great shift in the world. Your connection to your goddess has changed in some way, and with it your power. Now, as long as your Green and Teal candles are lit, you may ask a Question of Derala once each night. Her answers may be cryptic, but you have access to great truths.

 However, your sleep is deeper than expected, and you do not awaken for the morning prayers as normal.

 

Spoiler: Night 5 (click to show/hide)

Captain Ford    1    1    1    Avos                        You may use your Strength of Will to shift another player's vote

The Storm has not yet broken

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Dariush    1        1    Andoras               

The Storm has not yet broken       

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notquitethere    1        1    Telmorin - Power                       

The Storm has not yet broken

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Okami No Rei    1    1    1    True Gods                    Power changes    All players gain an additional vote. You may choose to turn off this power if you wish.

As you sit in your chambers and pray, you feel the power of the gods around you. Your power has changed yet again.

Things accelerate. The test must come to a closure. You now have the power to give all players three votes instead of 2. This power is active by default, but you may turn it off if you wish.

The Storm has not yet broken

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Onyxjew944    1    1    1    Telmorin                    Power changes    You may vote against another player's vote to cancel it

You sit in your chambers, praying to the gods for guidance. As you do so, you feel Telmorin close to you. There is a shifting inside of you. Your power has changed.

You may now specifically vote Against another player's vote to cancel it. To do so simply state with your vote that it is against a particular vote.

The Storm has not yet broken

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Ottofar    1    0    1    Twin - Power                Snuff Solifuge White    Snuffs   

The Storm has not yet broken

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webadict    1    1        Twin                Shatter Solifuge Green    Shatters    Shatter - You may destroy an unlit candle

You pray to the Destroyer. An image of Solifuge's Green candle sits in your mind. You visualize it shattering, the wax scattering across the room. Pressure builds within your mind, building to the point where it almost becomes pain, and then with an massive shudder the pressure is gone. You can sense that the deed is done.

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Remuthra    1        1    Avos - Power                       

The Storm has not yet broken

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Solifuge    0    0    1    Nirian - Power                    Does not wake up   

The Storm has not yet broken

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Tiruin    1    1        Nirian                Revive the High Priest.        Night Action - You may choose an Unconsious Player. They will be Active for the next day

You pray to Nirian, beseeching her to give Succor to the High Priest. Relieve his torment.

A sense of comfort and approval fills the room for a few minutes. It passes, but you sleep well knowing that you have done something good this night.

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Toaster    1        1    Derala                       

The Storm has not yet broken

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Vector    1    1    1    Derala - Power                how many candles would you describe as "necessary for us to stop the Spies?"     2 lights flicker, then 3    Oracle - If your Green and Teal candles are both lit you may ask a Question of Derala each night.

You pray to Derala. Your question skips across your lips, sometimes audible, sometimes silent.

The room grows dim, the lantern on your desk lowering to a mere spark in the darkness. You close your eyes, and view a great black expanse. Two lights flicker and dance before for a moment, and then fade. Three lights appear and flicker, and they too fade.


The Storm has not yet broken

 

Spoiler: Night 6 (click to show/hide)

Captain Ford    1    1    1    Avos                        Hand of Avos - You may use your votes without regard to any normal restrictions.

You awaken with the dawn. Strength flows through you, and you sense that things have shifted again.

Your Power has changed. It is now The Hand of Avos - You may use your votes without regard to any normal restrictions.

The line will be drawn here!

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Dariush    1        1    Andoras                       

The Greens are your path to victory this day

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Nerjin    1    1        Twin                        Persuade - Your votes count double as long as town is also voting for that same candle

You awaken with the dawn, and a sense that things have changed yet again.

Your Power has changed. It is now Persuasion - Your votes count double as long as town is also voting for that same candle

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notquitethere    1        1    Telmorin - Power                       

The balance can no longer be maintained

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Onyxjew944    1    1    1    Telmorin                        Tiebreaker - Your vote counts double on a tie.

You awaken with the dawn, and a sense that things have changed yet again.

Your Power has changed. It is now Tiebreaker - Your vote counts double on a tie.

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Ottofar    1    0    1    Twin - Power                Snuff Remuthra White    Snuffs   

You sneak off through the quiet halls and make your way to the Main Chamber. There you focus the powers of the dark god, and Remuthra's White candle sizzles for a moment before going dark. You slip back to your room through the dark and empty halls.

The Greens are your path to victory this day

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webadict    1    1        Twin                Shatter zombie urist's white candle    Shatters    Backstab - At the end of the day you may choose any 1 lit candle that ONLY town is voting, and that candle will be snuffed as long as it has at least 3 votes on it.

You pray to the Destroyer. An image of zombie urist's White candle sits in your mind. You visualize it shattering, the wax scattering across the room. Once again you feel the pressure mount within your mind. You hold it until you feel the shattering release that tells you that the deed is done.

Later, you awake from a fitful dream. Things have shifted once again.

Your power has changed. It is now Backstab - At the end of the day you may choose any 1 lit candle that ONLY town is voting, and that candle will be snuffed as long as it has at least 3 votes on it.

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Remuthra    0        1    Avos - Power                    Does not wake up   

You toss and turn restless for a while. Great forces are building, and you feel that they will clash soon.

However, when sleep does take you it is much deeper than normal, and you do not awaken for the morning prayers.

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Solifuge    0    -1    1    Nirian - Power                    Revived   

You awaken in the Healing Hall. You are groggy and your head hurts a bit. But you’re awake, at least.

Your power is shattered, but your voice still has weight. Use it well.

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Tiruin    1    1        Nirian                Revive Solifuge    Revives    Empower - You may give out two extra votes to other players during the day. They may be distributed as you see fit, but once given cannot be taken back.

You pray again to Nirian, this time beseeching her to give Succor to Solifuge and bring him back to consciousness. His council is desired.

A sense of comfort and approval fills the room for a few minutes. It passes, but you sleep well knowing that you have done something good this night.

You awaken with the dawn, and a sense that things have changed yet again.

Your Power has changed. It is now Empower - You may give out two extra votes to other players during the day. They may be distributed as you see fit, but once given cannot be taken back.

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Toaster    1        1    Derala                       

You must overpower your foes to pass the test.

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Vector    1    1    1    Derala - Power                O Derala, has the number of those against the temple increased since we began our search?    Answered    Aura Vision - You will know if any powers are being used during the day, and what candles are affected, although you will not know what the power is doing.

You pray to Derala. Your question skips across your lips, sometimes audible, sometimes silent.

The room grows dim, the lantern on your desk lowering to a mere spark in the darkness. You close your eyes, and view a great black expanse. Four lights shine in the darkness, and you feel a bit uneasy looking at them. They sit silent and menacing for a while. Eventually you open your eyes and sit back, breathless. You must ponder what this vision means.

You awaken with the dawn, and a sense that things have changed yet again.

Your Power has changed. It is now Hidden Voice - You may communicate with people via PM during the day.


The test is simple. Do not overthink it, but instead focus on your enemies.

[Mephansteras]

Now, as for what was going on this this game.

There were a few things that made this a Bastard Game.

First the Candles. Which you guys basically had figured out by the end.

White - Life/Voice. A player with their White candle unlit could not speak, vote, or use any actions.
Green - Power - A player with their Green candle unlit could not use any Powers
Teal - Spirit - A player with their Teal candle unlit would not gain any of the hints handed out through the game.

Not all players had their Green or Teal candles lit. The unlit Green candles at the Start of the game would give much more powerful abilities than the candles that started lit.

The idea here was to take Mafia and break it down into a finer grain. Hence the ability to give/remove people's powers and voice. The Teal candle was mostly there so I could mess with the balance of the game by giving people advice or hints as I needed. It was also Okami/ZU's win condition to have all Teal candles lit.

Town win condition: Have all Scum players with either their White or Green candles unlit.
Scum win condition: Have equal or greater number of Scum players with their White and/or Green candles lit than the Town
3rd Party win condition: Have all Conscious players have their Teal candle lit (everyone with a white to have a lit teal)

Of course, this situation by itself is a never ending cycle. Neither side could win since it's too easy to just undo what was voted on. So I gave the game a few more twists:

1) No role flips. While the candles could give hints as to who was on what side, they weren't role flips per se and the spies candles give off scents that could also apply to the Lomonthian gods just as well.
2) The game has an unspoken timer of 7 game days.
3) The game rules and player powers will change as things get closer to the end. These rules will be specifically designed to rebalance the game so that all sides have a decent chance of winning if they figure out what to do and play well.

This is why, after a few days, the candle changes became permanent. For the most part, anyway, since the scum could still Snuff a lit candle even if it had the unchanging Red flame.

Overall, I think this game suffered from over thinking. The puzzle wasn't much of a puzzle, but everyone kept wanting to believe that there was more going on. Since there wasn't, people would get frustrated as their theories kept unraveling after a bit.

It was interesting to watch, and I wonder if I needed to be much more specific in my hints to people. As it was, I felt like I was throwing all the clues to the game around constantly without people really figuring it out.

Also, I'm never running a game that requires that many things to keep track of again. That spreadsheet was a giant PAIN to keep track of. And I apologize for the cases where things got misplaced or missed in the process.

[Remuthra]

Man, I really wish I had been a bigger factor in this game. Vigilante role?

[Mephansteras]

Man, I really wish I had been a bigger factor in this game. Vigilante role?

Heh. Here is the power you would have gotten (initially): Master the Flame - You may Light or Extinguish any candle (Night action)

[ToonyMan]

Another Meph bastard where everyone loses.