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[Tiruin]

...Ok, people voting Otto's White, are you sure that this is your choice?

Reason is as follows: I'm inclined to believe that (judging by flavor and the priest's eyes bleeding blood) we've either got until tonight to finish this right, or tomorrow morning.

The omen of blood from anyone's eyes (usually statues in a religious make, though I've never heard stories of blood from the living's eyes...) usually indicates bad stuff coming. Yes, I'm being general, because this is what usually happens in stories with those (which are, obviously, in a religious area and used to foretell disaster because 'the masses didn't listen' and all). Now, in game time terms I'm betting this means that we still have time to ratify what to do...because darned be I if this day is our last day and all.

...Ok, I'm on little time and am sure I won't make it on the dot to the day end but believe what I'm saying about blood from the eyes, please. Being in a country with a long background of stories such as these (and multiple ghost stories, folktales of mythological lore and many other things concerning the supernatural...), I know what I'm talking about regarding that point.

[Onyxjew944]

Thank you, Snuff Ottofar White Go Bandwagon, go!

Lol scum.

I would normally respond with something to the effect of "Legends tell of a comment, where the sarcasm was so thick it could be cut with a wet sock filled with decadent melting butter.", but that is just asking for us to devolve into an idiotic argument where both are calling to the other an imbecile for missing their obvious sarcasm. So I'll just leave it with this misleading and nigh-pointless set of sentences.

Also, Webadict, why are you trying to snuff my white?

Unsnuff Ottofar's White.
Snuff Ottofar's Green.

I'm willing to give a different approach a chance. I'm not sure about this "eyes bleeding blood" and "Bad things coming" flavor-text, but the repetition argument is enough for me.

[Nerjin]

Unvote All

Just to be safe. Now as I notice Ottofar's little... Addition...

Snuff Ottofar'sGreen

[Captain Ford]

...lantern oil. Okay, maybe you're right.

Snuff Ottofar Teal

But the problem is that Ottofar's Green lit by itself on Night 2. Snuffing his green isn't going to do anything.

Hell, at this point, I don't care if he uses his ability. This is bullshit.

Why am I the only one who thinks that the warning corresponded to Okami's ability? I don't get what the hell anyone is doing.

[Solifuge]

Snuff Ottofar Teal

Because depriving the Scum of ProTips will do anything practical at all. Sure thing, scumbucket. Let me get right on that.

Spoiler: Anyway Nerjin, I fixed your broken quote formatting. Was hard to read, and attributed quotes to the wrong people. (click to show/hide)

Onyxjew944, do you even read the thread?

I'm sure he does, although I'm not entirely sure he comprehends it the same way you do. Which isn't a bad thing. I'm not seeing some of the stuff you say such as:

I do not understand how people fail to see that the storm signifies LYLO. Snuffing Ottofar's White Candle has not and does not kill Ottofar the way it does Town players, as we have seen. But since only two people are even reading this sentence, I'm pretty much willing to call Good Game right here. Scumteam, you don't deserve this victory; all you had to do was lurk and let the Town lose the game for you.

3 things: How does the storm signify LYLO? It could mean ANY NUMBER OF THINGS! Changing powers for one. Maybe some rules have changed behind the scenes.

Secondly: If snuffing Ottofar's white doesn't kill him why does he go to the healing hall every night? Someone's power if reviving him. Maybe his own, maybe someone else's. I don't know.

Lastly: I apologize to everyone for the following: Solifuge QUIT BEING A WHINY BITCH! Giving up at this point like that? You're an asshole. Dariush may be rude but he plays the game. Web may be rude but he plays the game. You're being rude to EVERY SINGLE PLAYER for no reason other than that you can't handle a loss because you've got your head stuck so far up your ass. If you're just gonna give up request a replacement so that someone who isn't just gonna sit on their ass and whine how their team is a bunch of noobs can join in instead. I mean god damnit man. If people aren't listening use LOGIC to make them listen instead of saying "Whoa is me! The entire community of this forum is a bunch of fuckin' retards.".

On the off-chance that anyone actually is reading this,

Fuck you.

and for some reason you think that snuffing Ottofar's White candle over and over again constitutes solving the puzzle or winning the game... please think, for just a moment, that you may be mistaken. Green signifies the powers of a player. What is the powers the Scumteam in most every Mafia game have? What would taking that power away from the Scumteam do?

So only players with a POWER ROLE can night-kill? No, I don't think so. Likely the scum power roles HELP with the night-kill. But I doubt the green candles themselves signify night kills.

-snip-

Dude, I understand your whole #1 Webadict Fanboy routine, and how you've been trying to crib his loud, commanding, devil-may-care attitude, so people take you more seriously in game. But please, realize that when it's you doing it, it just comes across as negative and bitchy. Do you want to know Webadict's secret? Why it is that he gets to sling shit around and curse and insult people? It's because he's a competent Mafia player, known for good arguments and fairly sound reasoning. Crap-slinging and insulting players does not magically make you good at the game. For your own sake, and for everyone else's, just stop it. You haven't earned the right to be an ass to anyone.

Hm... Yes... Yes... I see... Well that settles it. We should all bow down to the whiny bitch who knows better than everyone. You've already said you quit the game. Just go lurk in a corner.

RE: Soli is a whiny bitch:
Judging by the current strategic meta for B12 Mafia, I have two options for getting people's attention when presenting an argument to keep them from doing something dumb and losing the game; cuss at them, shout, and belittle them until they listen to me, or plead for them to listen to me. I prefer trying to appeal to Pathos and Logos. Personally, I'm sick of the culture of negativity that's been breeding in the subforum; jibes are one thing, calling someone a retarded fuckface with real hostility behind it is something very different. I can think of some folks who need to learn that boundary.

Also, I never requested nor would request a replacement like that... that would be poor sportsmanship, and dickery besides. Nevertheless, sorry that post was annoying for you, but I promise it bothers me a lot more when the shit-flinging happens. I have patience for many things, but personal attacks are not one of them, and I am a very passionate person. Luckily, I keep it under a few padlocks, unless I need it.

RE: Losing:

How does the storm signify LYLO? It could mean ANY NUMBER OF THINGS! Changing powers for one. Maybe some rules have changed behind the scenes.

The storm doesn't have to mean LYLO, but it definitely means the end is near. And I think it's tied to changing powers, or different circumstances for the day.

Also, the whole "You Must Light and Snuff a candle today" sounds a lot like a "Dance of Light and Darkness". I believe we might be seeing Ottofar's role-power at the same time as the End-Game is beginning. That's what I meant earlier in the Day, CaptainFord; Ottofar is the one responsible. It has the potential to benefit scum, and restricts the actions the Town can take. With a strong Day-game, the Scumteam could have turned it into something very profitable.

You're being rude to EVERY SINGLE PLAYER for no reason other than that you can't handle a loss because you've got your head stuck so far up your ass.

Heh, weird wording here. You say we're losing, yet are okay with this. Under other circumstances, my Red Alert siren would be going off there... but I think you meant me losing in the Scum sense? The benefit of the doubt is yours.

[webadict]

Also, Webadict, why are you trying to snuff my white?

Because you were gone for over a week.

Why am I the only one who thinks that the warning corresponded to Okami's ability? I don't get what the hell anyone is doing.

You're not. That's why I'm not going to light my Teal. I don't want anyone to light my Teal. I have no reason to believe that it's good other than everyone else says so. So, it might just be a giant conspiracy to get everyone to light their Teal candles.

[Solifuge]

I suppose I could see Teal Candles and Closeness to the Gods also ushering in the endgame. The HP said "The Gods are close today" but I interpreted that as the Duality Douchebag Gods.

That is entirely possible, but if teal was linked to their Wincon, you'd think we'd have seen Scum lighting teal candles in the night, instead of snuffing whites and greens. No?

All teal has done for me is give me Protips during the night.

[webadict]

Maybe it's a different faction? Maybe there are multiple factions? Maybe it's a recruit thing? Maybe maybe maybe. All I know is that Teal is useless to me and I refuse to light mine.

[Solifuge]

I think that's fine, Web. You can be the ornery, spiritually-unenlightened monk we keep around the temple because he's fun at parties.

[Mephansteras]

The Scribe's Tally Sheet
Light Captain Ford Teal: Captain Ford
Light Dariush Teal: Dariush
Light notquitethere Teal: notquitethere
Light Onyxjew944 Teal: Onyxjew944
Snuff Onyxjew944 White: webadict
Snuff Ottofar Green: Nerjin, Onyxjew944, Remuthra, Solifuge, Tiruin, Toaster
Snuff Ottofar Teal: Captain Ford
Snuff Ottofar White: Dariush, Okami No Rei
Snuff webadict Green: notquitethere
Light Remuthra Teal: Remuthra
Light Toaster Green: Tiruin
Light Toaster Teal: Toaster
Light Vector White: Okami No Rei, webadict, Solifuge



  You step up onto your disks, and cast your final votes.
 
  Ottofar's Green candle crackles violently for a moment, and then goes still. Its wick is gone.
 
  Vector's White candle surges to life once again. Its flame is a deep red, and does not flicker and move as much as you would expect.
 
  Captain Ford's, Dariush's, notquitethere's, Onyxjew944's, Remuthra's, and Toaster's Teal candles flicker to life. Their flames are also a deep red, and do not flicker and move as much as you would expect.
 
  Pondering these strange effects, you head back to your rooms to pray for guidance and rest up for tomorrow. A great weight lays over the room, as if in anticipation.





Night has fallen. Send in your actions!

[Mephansteras]

A sense of power still looms over the Great Chamber. And yet...the feeling is a bit more removed, as if it has been pushed back a bit.

The High Priest still floats above the candles, and still seems insensate, but the blood is gone from his face and he seems to be much more at peace.

As for the candles, they are much as they were when you left yesterday.

However, Solifuge’s White candle is out, and it no longer has a wick. His Green candle is even worse. Something has shattered it, and pieces of green wax are scattered about. He himself is resting once again in the Healing Hall. Alive, but unconscious.



The Candles stand thus:

    Captain Ford: White Candle is lit, Green Candle is lit, Teal Candle is lit
    Dariush: White Candle is lit, Green Candle is out, Teal Candle is lit
    Nerjin: White Candle is lit, Green Candle is lit, Teal Candle is out
    notquitethere: White Candle is lit, Green Candle is out, Teal Candle is lit
    Okami No Rei: White Candle is lit, Green Candle is lit, Teal Candle is lit
    Onyxjew944: White Candle is lit, Green Candle is lit, Teal Candle is lit
    Ottofar: White Candle is lit, Green Candle is out, Teal Candle is lit
    webadict: White Candle is lit, Green Candle is lit, Teal Candle is out
    Remuthra: White Candle is lit, Green Candle is out, Teal Candle is lit
    Solifuge: White Candle is out, Green Candle is shattered, Teal Candle is lit
    Tiruin: White Candle is lit, Green Candle is lit, Teal Candle is out
    Toaster: White Candle is lit, Green Candle is out, Teal Candle is lit
    Vector: White Candle is lit, Green Candle is lit, Teal Candle is lit


You have Three votes now, instead of Two.


The day has started. It will go until ~5pm Pacific Wednesday.

[Captain Ford]

I seriously did not expect to wake up alive today. I'm shaken about what happened, but mostly I'm pissed off that no one extended the day. (Every time a day has ended, it's been when I'm at work and before I had a good chance to figure out what to do)

Okami: What. Did. You. Do.

[Remuthra]

Well, I think Okami's thing worked.

I got some information last night. The Storm has not yet broken.

[notquitethere]

Yeah, I got the exact same message as Remuthra.

[Captain Ford]

I got some information last night. The Storm has not yet broken.

I got the same exact message. Not exactly the helpful advice I was hoping to receive from Avos. I suspect something isn't as advertised.

...

...Vector's white candle is lit!

Meph: Why is the change in Vector's candle not noted? Is Vector herself present with us in the chamber?