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[Remuthra]

From what we've seen, White has a pertinence to life. However, it would make sense for the puzzle to be more complicated than that. Darkness is the opposite of light, so it would make sense for darkness priests to get powers from snuffed candles, since they worship darkness. This theory is a bit old, but I still think White candles affect more than life, because otherwise the puzzle wouldn't be nearly as difficult. I also presume that candles affect different priests differently.

[Tiruin]

From what we've seen, White has a pertinence to life. However, it would make sense for the puzzle to be more complicated than that. Darkness is the opposite of light, so it would make sense for darkness priests to get powers from snuffed candles, since they worship darkness. This theory is a bit old, but I still think White candles affect more than life, because otherwise the puzzle wouldn't be nearly as difficult. I also presume that candles affect different priests differently.

Hmm, I guess the first sentence pertains to the fact that we've all had our White candles lit D1? I mean, it holds no meaning otherwise if you see if in a holistic viewpoint - did it denote life, or did the absence/presence of light denote life? Look at Sol, then look at Dariush. Unless I missed Sol's God [which I can't remember now], there may be a correlation to your PM/role/worship who you're close to.

Darkness isn't the opposite of light, its just the absence of illumination - like physical forces. Unless I'm getting my Physics wrong.

...And on a side-comment, you seem to only reply when called out on. Why so?

[Remuthra]

Darkness isn't the opposite of light, its just the absence of illumination - like physical forces. Unless I'm getting my Physics wrong.

In a realistic sense, yes. But in a divine sense, darkness is often seen as the opposite of Light.

...And on a side-comment, you seem to only reply when called out on. Why so?

A combination of inexperience and lack of time. I'm currently here writing a paper.

[Captain Ford]

...maybe a priest is only knocked out when their white candle is snuffed last?

Tiruin: I still don't know what your ability does then.

[Tiruin]

Crazy idea...but the theory of a one-man scumteam with super powers (like Dakarian's bell-themed Mafia?) and the HP is just giving his guess struck me. I'm entertaining the notion.

"High Priest!" Tiruin says. "Is your guess that traitors are plural mean that there are more than one traitor present among us, or is that just your guess and the actual number of traitors are unsure - like, there is the chance that there is only one?"

[Vector]

Doctors how?

Event Order: The order of events is generally as follows:
    Misdirection
    Role-blocking
    Protection
    Investigations
    Night Kills/Conversions

[webadict]

Do you still require a replacement? If so... I think I can help solve this puzzle.

[Vector]

Do you still require a replacement? If so... I think I can help solve this puzzle.

YESSSS

[Okami No Rei]

Do you still require a replacement? If so... I think I can help solve this puzzle.

YESSSS

YESSSS

[Dariush]

Dariush: Do you still have your ability?

No, I don't.

Why did you think your candle wasn't entirely out?

Because 1) So far everyone (Solifuge) with all candles snuffed 'died'; 2) All of my candles were snuffed; 3) I wasn't dead; 4) Therefore, either the first or the second statements are incorrect (since I obviously am alive). Since we now (after Meph's post, that is) see that second statement is correct, we deduce that total snuff != death.

My current theory is that someone who has an ability and gets FCSd loses his ability instead and probably dies the next day. However, since I really don't want to test this one on myself, I call for the good people to bring me back to normal.

Dariush: Why no answer regarding the snuffy candles?

If you want me to answer your questions, at least repost it. I'm not going to go scouring through the thread to indulge your laziness.

Why did you not say anything earlier regarding the changes of the candles, and you. Like, powers/anything regarding the night?[/b]

And what could I say? I know only as much about the candle changes as was said in the thread. All extra info I received is that this morning I woke up and felt that my god withdrew.

Meph: How long was Dariush's candle smoking for?

What. How is this related to anything?

[Captain Ford]

Meph: How long was Dariush's candle smoking for?

What. How is this related to anything?

Maybe there was a short window of time where we could interact with it. Tiruin's guess about the scent and smoke being related to the order in which they were snuffed got me thinking about why that would matter.

Also, there is a difference between your snuffing and Solifuge's -- his was during the day, and yours was at night. Maybe you'll collapse at the end of the day.

[Dariush]

Maybe there was a short window of time where we could interact with it. Tiruin's guess about the scent and smoke being related to the order in which they were snuffed got me thinking about why that would matter.

That's stupid, since 1) I have never seen such a QTE in any Meph's game, and 2) We weren't even told (and neither was I through PM) my candles became completely dead until you asked about it.

Also, there is a difference between your snuffing and Solifuge's -- his was during the day, and yours was at night. Maybe you'll collapse at the end of the day.

Aaaand this makes much more sense.

Come on people, I want to live. Help me out here.

[Nerjin]

Dariush is a good player and I have no scum leads right now.

Light Dariush White

We need all the living people we can get. Even if this is a delayed death it'll save us time tomorrow.

PFP

[Okami No Rei]

Spoiler: D1 Notes (click to show/hide)

Player	White	Green	Teal	God	Close?	Power	Notes
Okami No Rei	1	1	1	-	-	Yes	Received PM: Nerjin is interesting.
Captain Ford	1	1	0	Avos	-	Strength
Dariush	1	1	0	Andoras	-	Yes
Nerjin	1	1	0	-	-	Yes
Onyxjew944	1	1	0	Telmorin1	-	Yes
RangerCado	1	1	0	Telmorin2	-	-
Tiruin	1	1	0	Avos3	-	Flare4
Toaster	1	1	0	-	-	Yes
Ottofar	1	0	1	-	-	-	Received PM: Toaster's Power is interesting.
Vector	1	0	1	Derala	Yes	No	Lit Green - Received PM: Want's Green Lit
notquitethere	1	0	0	Telmorin	-	No
Remuthra	1	0	0	Avos	No	No
Solifuge	1	0	0	Nirian5	-	-	Snuffed White - Scent of Baked Bread

1: Onyx - Post 89 - Claiming Telmorin, or simply that he also serves all the gods?
2: RangerCado - Post 175 - Telmorin softclaim?
3: Tiruin - Post 240 - Repeated use of 'fire', 'flame', 'burn'.  Avos softclaim?
4: Tiruin - Post 244 - Uses the word 'flare' in reference to his power.
5: Solifuge - I believe Solifuge is a follower of Nirian based on the scent from his white candle.  Also, in Post 166 he says "my goddess", indicating either Derala or Nirian.

Spoiler: D2 Notes (click to show/hide)

Player	White	Green	Teal	God	Close?	Power	Notes
Okami No Rei	1	1	1	-	-	Yes
Captain Ford	1	1	0	Avos	-	Strength - Immune to Vote Manip	Slept deeply N1 - Roleblocked?
Dariush	1	1	0	Andoras	-	Yes
Nerjin	1	1	0	-	-	Yes
Onyxjew944	1	1	0	Telmorin	-	Yes
RangerCado	1	1	0	-	-	-
Tiruin	1	1	0	Avos	-	Flare
Toaster	1	0	0	-	-	No	Green snuffed N1 - Scent of Incense - Trail of Smoke - Lost PR
Ottofar	0	0	1	-	-	-	White snuffed N1 - Nothing
Vector	1	1	1	Derala	Yes	Candle Inspect	Teal tied to connection with god.
notquitethere	1	0	0	Telmorin	-	No
Remuthra	1	0	0	Avos	No	No
Solifuge	0	0	0	Nirian	-	-	Lit Teal - Deep Slumber

Spoiler: D3 Notes (click to show/hide)

Player	White	Green	Teal	God	Close?	Power	Notes
Okami No Rei	1	1	1	-	-	Yes	Received PM: Dariush Teal is interesting.
Captain Ford	1	1	0	Avos	-	Strength - Immune to Vote Manip
Dariush	0	0	0	Andoras1	-	-	White and Green snuffed N2 - White: Nothing - Green: Scent of rain and wet earth. - Trail of Smoke
Nerjin	1	1	0	-	-	Yes
Onyxjew944	1	1	0	Telmorin	-	Yes
RangerCado	1	1	0	-	-	-
Tiruin	1	1	0	Avos	-	Flare
Toaster	1	0	0	-	-	No
Ottofar	1	1	1	-	-	Dance of the Sun and Moon	White and Green lit N2 - Received PR - Advice: Good idea to use it.
Vector	1	1	1	Derala	Yes	Candle Inspect	Otto White tied to soul. Has a menacing feel.
notquitethere	1	0	0	Telmorin	-	No
Remuthra	1	0	0	Avos	No	No
Solifuge	0	0	1	Nirian	-	-	Deep Slumber?

1: I believe Dariush is a follower of Andoras based on the scent from his green candle.

Captain Ford
In post 327 you claim that Strength, gives you an immunity to Vote Manipulation.  Can you explain why your vote was removed anyway whenever the whiteboard was cleared here?

I'm also a little wary that there might be a hidden time limit, such as someone having an ability that gains strength over time. This game could otherwise go on for a very long time.

You were the first to mention the "ability that gains strength over time" theory.  Seems more logical to me that an ability named Strength would have such a property, rather than some vote manipulation immunity that you, demonstrably, do not have.  It's suspicious to me that scum have now demonstrated such an ability.

Ottofar and Vector
When, exactly, did you receive your D2 and D3 advice, if at all?  Summarize the advice itself at your discretion, but I believe the timing is important.

Everyone - Did anyone sleep unusually deeply N2, as Captain Ford did N1?

High Priest - Is Solifuge feeling well enough to join us, or is he still ill from the events of the first day?

Light Solifuge White - I have questions for him.

Light Dariush Teal - Because my advice this morning seems to indicate that we should.

[Nerjin]

Damn it forgot all about solifuge.

Light Solifuge White