Griff:
I was never suggesting voting for TolyK, all I'm saying is leave the killing of Sheep to the town vig, and use your vote to kill a target who won't die anyway.
Okay, I see what you mean now. I say since I'm so sure he's scum, why leave anything to chance.
Meanwhile,
town vig? Until the vote reset, you were voting TolyK. Why is he suddenly town?
If he does flip Mafia and the game doesn't end... I guess the most likely scenario is that TolyK is a SK. He's awfully vocal about his abilities to be a SK, but it's certainly possible.
If he really is your only other read, then I challenge you to no-vote rather than vote for the one person we can use to judge TolyK by. Or, preferably, get a jump and lynch your next possibility in the off chance that sheep is not scum, you know, because it won't matter if you're right and we've killed the only scum left. If Sheep somehow survives the poison we can hammer him in the morning.
See above comment. If Sheep is town (he isn't) then everything I know about this game is wrong and I will have to totally reread. That's more effort than I want to put in right now.
Again, here's inconsistency in your read. If you think Sheep is sure enough scum that you want to hammer him in the morning if he lives, why not just lynch him now?
Quote me where I insulted anyone over not voting Sheep. Also, why do I seem scummy?
You mean when you weren't drunk?
I understand that people can be wrong.
This pretty much seems to sum up your attitude on our attempting to get reads on other targets than Sheep. You also pressured Tiruin into voting for Sheep by essentially repeating that she shouldn't target TolyK.
Well, that was meant to be more snarky than insulted, so sorry if I insulted you. But I don't at all apologize for getting people to vote my way.
You seem scummy because you accepted Hapah buddying you without comment; and didn't press him on his ability, I feel if you were town that should have left a bad impression on you; but if you were scum you might accept it as something you could shrug off later if he were lynched. You seem like you absolutely know that you're right, but aren't taking the time to re-examine your read. You seem to be trying to pressure enough people to get a hammer, which you'll be clean in because you voted for Sheep first this time around. And mostly you're trying to waste a town lynch on somebody who is 95% garunteed to die without needing a lynch.
You also never gave us a straight reason for your weird voting D1; which was dropped after Hapah's claim cleared you.
I didn't see it as something that needed to be heavily pursued.
Neither did you, since you didn't mention it on your next post.You think I wanted to get in at the ground floor of a lynch? That's a bit silly, since I first voted him the previous day. But if it bugs you that much, I will
gladly unvote and put the hammer vote on Sheep myself if enough people vote him.
I don't see what kind of explanation that needs that hasn't already been said. I
wanted Ford to hang. Not enough people were voting him and there was a three-way tie, so I voted NQT to break it. He voted Ford to save himself, and I went back to Ford, my original pick. What else are you looking for?
I couldn't read Hapah through sheer lack of content, and I already said that.
And I'm thinking that as you were the one being buddied you probably should have called him out on it to see his reaction. Reads don't just happen, you need to make them happen.
I tried to read Hapah and came up with nothing. I asked this question because the three of you were my top picks for scum after Sheep. Hapah's flip just made things simple.
Yeah you did, then you minimized my case and ignored my suggestion that you prod him more. Admittedly he DID quit right then so you may had been waiting for him to give you his reads; but you NEVER questioned his claim to his face. You only ever said that it's not a guarantee that you were town; which is EXACTLY the amount and type of distancing I expect scum would treat other scum with.
See above.
Toaster cont.:
Also, why do I seem scummy?
Another thing: You are the only person who has made absolutely no claims about their abilities. I think I've made the second least, and I've at least informed everyone that I had nothing to do with the lack on NK's and that I've not targeted anyone either night. You are also apposed to the concept of a mass-claim; which makes me a suspicious about what your abilities are that you spend so much effort to hide them.
So then: Do you have anything to do with the lack of night-kills? Does part of the reason you are SO sure that sheep is scum have something to do with your abilities. Is the reason you're opposed to a mass-claim related to a mechanic based weakening of your abilities or is it that you have something that you feel would serve town better if kept secret?
I don't know anything that would directly benefit the town, but I can offer one piece of evidence as to why there haven't been any nightkills.
Night 2 I used a one-shot ability that let me gain certain abilities used on me that night. Web was of course a bit evasive as to what I could and could not copy, but I gathered that I could copy regular night actions but not one shots.
I got one ability: an Antidoc ability that turned protections into kills. From the flavor and ability name, I'm about 99% sure that Hapah used it on me, given it sounded pretty damn alchemical. Think about it- claim someone as town, then try to kill people that protect him.
I didn't claim it right away because I wanted to see if I could catch someone in a lie. Now that Hapah is gone it's less useful.