PFP - Stress. Really annoying stress.
Oh come on people. I
propose something, and then get suspected for the base idea of giving out a thought. Am I advocating it? I'm proposing it because I suspect TolyK. That's the reasoning behind it and...everything else beforehand isn't answered. Wow. >_>
TOLYK: ANSWERS.Ranger's case on you is absolutely conjecture, and pretty much rubbish; as I'm sure your aware. Why then does your fate hinge on his confirming or denying your ability having targeted him? Also, you don't have to answer, but what ability did you use that will give him notice of your target?
I resetted Hapah's One-shot.
Hapah needs a replacement. Probably won't get one at 1000 posts. Guess I'll have to modkill.
Oh come on!
OK. Tiruin is almost certainly scum. First, she thinks it's fairly reasonable to kill three players in one foul swoop when there are probably at most two scum remaining and it's not likely Toly would have poisoned a fellow scum if he isn't town. Killing three people just for the off-chance to catch one is pretty lousy odds:
And then she wants to know my lovers picks-- just like Zrk2 had done before her:
Almost. Certainly?!
Goodness. Can you be more passive-aggressive given what everyone has been posting about.
Bloody hell. Let me speak before you condemn me without any conclusive evidence. I was comparing why in the world were you giving off information like that in comparison to your lover'picks. One thing is, you're assuming they're both town. That is the main reason why you're not giving it off. I
proposed-
pro·pose
/prəˈpōz/
Verb
Put forward (an idea or plan) for consideration or discussion by others: "he proposed a new peace plan".
Nominate (someone) for an elected office or as a member of a society.
Proposition
prop·o·si·tion
noun \ˌprä-pə-ˈzi-shən\
Definition of PROPOSITION
1
a (1) : something offered for consideration or acceptance : proposal (2) : a request for sexual intercourse
b : the point to be discussed or maintained in argument usually stated in sentence form near the outset
c : a theorem or problem to be demonstrated or performed
2
a : an expression in language or signs of something that can be believed, doubted, or denied or is either true or false
b : the objective meaning of a proposition
3
: something of an indicated kind to be dealt with <the farm was never a paying proposition> -you be thrown in with him because of your antics. One is, you keep on doing that claim thing everyday--or perhaps every-mid day and then keep on changing the story based on what I've seen before. First its lovers, then its trapsetting on the lovers. Then you suspected people on an incredibly obvious case on your lovers targeting you even
after you stated that your lovers can't NK you. Then you finally come out D3, after a long time of people debating and talking without you to mention that you've NK Immune'd yourself from two people--Vector and Me, N1 and N2 respectively when you could've done the same during the first moments of the day and nothing would've changed.
The funny thing is, that's a rare case out of the multitude on the lover-town thing. You trusted those people being fairly town, sure, that's understandable. However you're so sure about it--but not scumhunting during anything as of recent note, relying more on your power, then going all 'SURPRISE' during the day with big bolded claim caps--I see nothing following the case that you were scumhunting during D3 at all given the lack of posts other than questions on who acted during the night.
Which was really weird given that case of you mentioning the lack of NKs
a day before. Let me link it:
This was when you stated immunity from lover kills.But you said you were immune to any NK by lovers, right?
That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm immune to lover NK, there was no NK, once again raising the possibility of a lover attack in the night. I was saying that despite the possibility, I don't actually think it that likely.
Did you get any message in the night?
Griff, Sheep, Vector, did you take an action in the night? I'm not asking for what it was, I just want to know if you took one.
And you still suspected them for some reason?
You had a good vague smokescreen here. Check the spoiler above- that's what I'm basing my incredulous reaction on you for--you already stated the trap yesterday, yet still suspect a lover hit you at the time. Now if you'd realize (or probably poke at me back, whatever),
I targeted Hapah N2. The reason on why his response is so crucial is because it shatters your case on me; a case that people are picking up for whatever reason, and going along your directional signage.
Alright, with the lack of Hapah claiming anything, you'd go on with what you know without asking anyone else on what they'd think. No. You stated instead on a generality, 'If there was no other block/redirect...and a list of role actions- Tiruin is scum.'
You did not ask the thoughts of others, and are now getting pretty uppity given me proposing the poisoner.
Ability 3: Auto ability protecting me from my targets night kills:[...]
I mean, I already suspected this much from a long time before, when you first stated that notion of the lover bond and that link and you suspect that I'd NK you. Read up on the thread for the context other than relying solely on your actions for one, please.
Toaster:
PPE: Oh man, modkill threat. I'll feel silly if digging that up was in vain.
This actually answers my suspicion nicely, so thanks for the reply.
Tiruin:TheWetSheep, NQT (I'm leaning on saving the lover) however, I've a proposition to think about.
Why don't you kill them both, and then get lynched. Best scenario is that if you're scum...well, one scum poisoner down. If you're town, then conclusions draw into matters on conjunctions--are your targets scum or town? We're decided and debated for more than enough days, the general consensus is in suspicion on TWS due to his antics...While I am suspicious of you because of your antics (and that I'm really against poisoners being town...), the proposition above seems fairly reasonable to me.
So you don't want to him to kill NQT, but you want him to kill NQT... What?
"Let's lynch you and let two others die!" Yes... totally reasonable proposition.
Yeah, guess why. I can't protect anyone from what he does. I'm not even sure if my protect did anything unless we'd account for what happened D1 (or...as far as how my protect was described). Because then, I protected
you during that time--explains most of why I trust you, and in lieu of the state of matters during that time. The idea that there were no NKs during
both days gets me worried...what if the scum NK is not actually an NK (and all those immunity things)...and what UI could do being an SK. Why I'm saying it now? Because I'm darn tired of waiting for any sort of information to come out and to at least clear things up based on the matter of 'What the hell happened' during those times.
NQT. Tell me this one thing. If a mass claim is not in towns interest because...for that reason you answered me here, detail it. Why do you keep on giving off information like that? Because for one, the primary thought coursing through my head when I see all that is you acting as a directional sign. 'Oh look this is what happened.' > changing the course of action. Now, I'm really concerned given how people are following it -- I don't suspect Ranger much despite his...life preservation skills and begging because I'm holding out the newbie card on him; newbie in the way that he's relying more on his role than on scumhunting, but doing the latter is also sincerely evident in the way that he's trying.
PFP Hate. Hormones.
PPEWe've got a dead mafioso- what happened to looking for scum teams?
What happened is that I have four papers and a final to deal with over the next two and a half weeks, for a sum total of about ~60 pages of writing.
Yeah, I can vouch for her :/ She's darn busy with a ton of work...
Toaster- I was afraid someone would bring that up. Thus far I've tried to only reveal as much of the truth as I can without giving too much away to scum. But okay: here's the reconciliation.
This doesn't make sense. Its the town flailing at this point based on the superficial reason that giving away too much would help scum; that's a good reason, but hanging onto that reason for consecutive days and a prolonged period of time? Scum know who town are and want to kill them. That much is obvious -- I'm not sure on anyone, nor can I see how anything happened before that helped this sort of reasoning - hence my reaction on you given the above statements. Kill me, lynch me, whatever. I am leaning on the prospect of Griffy being town, and Hapah being... :/ well. Given that you redi-
What are the reasons for you redirecting those pairs NQT?Query.
Toaster- I was afraid someone would bring that up. Thus far I've tried to only reveal as much of the truth as I can without giving too much away to scum. But okay: here's the reconciliation.
The Bigger Claim
I have three abilities. One is a lovers one shot, one is an auto-protect, all as previously described. The third ability wasn't work quite how I described:
Ability 1: One-shot lovers ability as described earlier
Ability 2: Night ability targeting two people, redirecting the actions of one to the other
Ability 3: Auto ability protecting me from my targets night kills: permanently in the case of ability one, temporarily in the case of ability two.
Night One, I targeted Zrk2 to Vector. It's pretty embarassing but I got it muddled in my head and claimed it happened the other way round and I only realised when I was rereading my sent messages the other day (by which time the damage had been done). This still means that Vector could have targeted me with an NK and if she did it wouldn't have worked. It also means that if Zrk2 used his NK, it would have hit Vector. She has soft claimed that it wouldn't have killed her.
Night Two, I targeted Griffionday to Tiruin. This means that Griff probably didn't use an NK last night. Tiruin could have attacked me or Vector in the night and depending on the truth of Ranger and Vector's claims, this could account for the lack of an NK.
So its linear? The weird thing is the bolded parts. The lack of an apostrophe gives me the idea that you made yourself immune from:
a. Your lover bond which is permanent.
b. Your target(s)-meaning those who you redirected, and who you redirected upon. Strangely, you firstly noted that I was redirected to someone else--if so, then someone's one-shot had been resetted. The blue part gives off suspicion, but nothing else as nothing was seen (but really. You misunderstanding your
own results and not announcing it in the first place?)
Where did Vector soft claim? Also @ last bolded part: That's what I meant by information...its all on a claim-case basis except that most other facts are still hidden because we're working on what is given out.
Why are you
afraid that someone would bring that up? Appealing to your conscience and not telling it earlier, huh.
GriffJust as a preference I'd prefer not to be poisoned in the night at least not until we get a more complete ability claim from you, but if you insist on continuing down your statistical list that's your prerogative.
Why are you fearing a poison?
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