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[Tiruin]

EBWOP:

Wait, that's like 3 abilities already NQT...Your lover-kill-immunity is an auto, isn't it?

[notquitethere]

Tiruin
I'd be very interested in hearing whether Hapah can confirm your action last night.

Also, I have no word that anyone targeted me in either N1 or N2. Ever.

You wouldn't have been informed when you were targeted by my ability.

Query: What is your action on your targets, hm?

As I described, I send Wuba a name and that person can't NK me that night.

Reasons for targeting those people? Why are you only saying this now?

I targeted Vector night one because she was my biggest critic at the time and if she was scum or third party I didn't want her offing me in the night. I targeted you night two because I have a hard time telling when you're scum and when you're town so I erred on the side of caution. I'm claiming now because if Griff put down the hammer, I might be dead by morning from Toly's alleged poison and I wouldn't have had the chance to tell town this very useful information.

Wait, that's like 3 abilities already NQT...Your lover-kill-immunity is an auto, isn't it?

I have essentially described my three abilities, but there are some additional complexities. There are specifics that I don't want to divulge in case someone has an ability mimicing power.

Vector

I did nothing.  Like I said--I targeted no one.

Is there any reason you wouldn't have died if targeted by scum last night?

[Tiruin]

Query: What is your action on your targets, hm?

As I described, I send Wuba a name and that person can't NK me that night.

Hmm, interesting. So you're pretty much averse to death, huh.

...

...I notice the huge list of Kill-immunity styled abilities. Perhaps this is why Web did not disclose the ability info?

Tomorrow will be pretty much a haphazard guess course on the NK thing, however I really do believe the lack of kills are tied to a factor. TolyK is my best guess (and that I'm not claiming my action yet, however my action does correlate to what I'm saying here--I can claim my action and receive no hindrance to its potential use, but doing so would pretty much let the cat out of the bag at the moment [lack of information]).

[Vector]

I did nothing.  Like I said--I targeted no one.

Is there any reason you wouldn't have died if targeted by scum last night?

Yes, there is; however, I'm not going to say anything more on that.

[Griffionday]

Tiruin

...I notice the huge list of Kill-immunity styled abilities. Perhaps this is why Web did not disclose the ability info?

My bet is on a revive ability of some kind, as Web said that such an ability is no good if the other abilities are revealed.  There was also ZU's (?, need to double check) claim of an ability that was supposed to be able to copy abilities if he knew the name.

...You know, at this rate, I really believe we're heading into massclaim tomorrow, or today if information trickles in at this rate.

Why do you keep bringing up things like this?  Meaning things town should do that you faintly disprove of, but want to get the town's opinions on?  It seems like you care too much about our opinion.

Toaster
Can you give us your read on Hapah?  Thanks.

[RangerCado]

Okay, here are the facts combined with NQT's newest claim:

NQT has put lovers on 2 people.

We can assume the lovers are not Vector or Tiruin due to him using protections against them.

Last night NQT protected himself from death by Tiruin if she targeted him with an offensive ability.

Last night i redirected everything that happened to Vector hit NQT and vice-versa.

This would explain the lack of an NK and incriminate Tiruin... I'm inclined to believe NQT here. This is tough for me as both of them haven't steered me wrong, i've trusted both of them so far, but after all this, Tiruin has appeared to be the scummier of the 2 in the long run.NQT: If i'm right, i just explained the night kill. Do you believe my version of events, or do you have your own theory?

Tiruin[/color]: Same question as the one to NQT.

(Wondering why i appear to be looking for approval of my theory? I want to know what the others think went down if they disagree with me.)

[notquitethere]

Ranger, the very possibility of Tiruin having targeted Vector and you telling the truth was a prime reason for me to claim. (Incidentally, if Vector is scum and if she's telling the truth about having some mechanism for avoiding night kills, if she had targeted me in the night and had it backfire on her, this would also explain the lack of a kill. But there's a lot of 'ifs' here.)

Unless someone else claims a revive/protect/delay/block/whatever, Tiruin being scum is the best theory we have for the lack of a night kill.

Griff, are you soft claiming having a revive ability or are you actually going to provide some useful information?

[Griffionday]

NQT

Are you soft claiming having a revive ability or are you actually going to provide some useful information?

Difficult question.  I'm not soft claiming; but on the other hand I've no useful information to share.  You see my predicament here?

[notquitethere]

Well, it's useful to say that you're not responsible for lack of an NK, if that's the truth.

[Griffionday]

Well, it's useful to say that you're not responsible for lack of an NK, if that's the truth.

Would I really have spent the majority of the time before the first mafia was flipped believing there was a cult as our main enemies if I was possibly responsible for the lack of a NK?

[notquitethere]

That doesn't account for night 2, and is there any reason for your evasive language? Afraid of a truth mage? Tell me plainly, in a complete sentence: are you responsible for the lack of a night kill?

[Griffionday]

I have no ability that in any way prevents or causes night kills.  If I am responsible for the lack of a night kill, I certainly don't know about it.

[TolyK]

Ranger, man. You're jumping from target to target, basically, whoever's getting bandwagoned.

There's also the thing.
What will we do with TheWetSheep?

Should I antidote him, or let him die?

How about this way of voting? (the k and a at the end is for me to Ctrl-Find them easily)
Kill: TheWetSheep(k)
Antidote:TheWetSheep(a)

[Tiruin]

Okay, here are the facts combined with NQT's newest claim:

NQT has put lovers on 2 people.

We can assume the lovers are not Vector or Tiruin due to him using protections against them.

Last night NQT protected himself from death by Tiruin if she targeted him with an offensive ability.

Last night i redirected everything that happened to Vector hit NQT and vice-versa.

This would explain the lack of an NK and incriminate Tiruin... I'm inclined to believe NQT here. This is tough for me as both of them haven't steered me wrong, i've trusted both of them so far, but after all this, Tiruin has appeared to be the scummier of the 2 in the long run.NQT: If i'm right, i just explained the night kill. Do you believe my version of events, or do you have your own theory?

Tiruin[/color]: Same question as the one to NQT.

(Wondering why i appear to be looking for approval of my theory? I want to know what the others think went down if they disagree with me.)

Ranger, the very possibility of Tiruin having targeted Vector and you telling the truth was a prime reason for me to claim. (Incidentally, if Vector is scum and if she's telling the truth about having some mechanism for avoiding night kills, if she had targeted me in the night and had it backfire on her, this would also explain the lack of a kill. But there's a lot of 'ifs' here.)

Unless someone else claims a revive/protect/delay/block/whatever, Tiruin being scum is the best theory we have for the lack of a night kill.

Griff, are you soft claiming having a revive ability or are you actually going to provide some useful information?

Interesting. So you (Ranger) go with the most obvious idea without any backing proof but NQT's word. There's one catch though.

I targeted Hapah N2. Bloody hell. Whether he confirms or denies it, that'll seal my fate. You two are drawing conclusions from...

...

I can't really see how that factors in into making me the best bet of being scum given everything else that happened. Ranger, That did not explain the night kill...Anything else for you to vote me on?

TheWetSheep, NQT (I'm leaning on saving the lover) however, I've a proposition to think about.

Why don't you kill them both, and then get lynched. Best scenario is that if you're scum...well, one scum poisoner down. If you're town, then conclusions draw into matters on conjunctions--are your targets scum or town? We're decided and debated for more than enough days, the general consensus is in suspicion on TWS due to his antics...While I am suspicious of you because of your antics (and that I'm really against poisoners being town...), the proposition above seems fairly reasonable to me.

Ranger, the very possibility of Tiruin having targeted Vector and you telling the truth was a prime reason for me to claim.

Dude, I'd pick the most vulnerable target. Good scumhunters and all- in that case, I'd prefer Toaster over Vector, though both people are generally high-priority players. Toaster for...well, everything about him. His avatar. His skill. Him being my first ever BM-IC teacher which brought me into the game...

Sad to say, I didn't target any of the two. Ever.


NQT

Unless someone else claims a revive/protect/delay/block/whatever, Tiruin being scum is the best theory we have for the lack of a night kill.

I'd like you to expound on this theory you have there. One thing: I targeted Hapah and...

Wait.

Tiruin[/color]: Same question as the one to NQT.

I'd like you to expound on the theory also--so regardless of anything else that happened, you're willing to trust the guy for...what reasons again? That theory is plausible, and I can see the matter of me as a scumbuddy-unlover targeting NQT for his transparency acts (However priorities first when I'm scum-target the big ships first then move onto the fiesty frigates later), but that doesn't explain the N1 NK-less morning.

Ranger: Yer take on D2 morn?

That doesn't account for night 2, and is there any reason for your evasive language? Afraid of a truth mage? Tell me plainly, in a complete sentence: are you responsible for the lack of a night kill?

Are there other truth magi around other than Hapah??

TolyK: Answer my questions, please, instead of refocusing the matters back to your choice - are you even sure of your choice, or are just asking us so you know where the general consensus lies?


NQT:...Why do you panic about the reason on your valuable information, yet you don't disclose who you lover'd?

[Tiruin]

...You know, at this rate, I really believe we're heading into massclaim tomorrow, or today if information trickles in at this rate.

Why do you keep bringing up things like this?  Meaning things town should do that you faintly disprove of, but want to get the town's opinions on?  It seems like you care too much about our opinion.

*Tiruin  points at NQT :I

He's trickling in information in a way that somehow piques my intuition. Of which I can get nothing but neutrality...

Griff, are you soft claiming having a revive ability or are you actually going to provide some useful information?

Soft claim how?

Tiruin

...I notice the huge list of Kill-immunity styled abilities. Perhaps this is why Web did not disclose the ability info?

My bet is on a revive ability of some kind, as Web said that such an ability is no good if the other abilities are revealed.  There was also ZU's (?, need to double check) claim of an ability that was supposed to be able to copy abilities if he knew the name.

Web said where?