VectorI'm short for time and haven't had a chance to reread since the beginning of D2, but just to get some of this out of the way before I reread this evening... I feel like all of this rigamarole about your role, the active-lurking, the lack of actual data you put out feels a little bit. . . I don't know, staged? I realize this sounds crazy, but I occasionally wonder if you lovers'd anyone at all. It'd be an interesting ruse.
And beyond that, you hear you've got an affection for Ford, so... you kill Ford. Why? That doesn't seem logical.
I thought it was just flavour text. I'd forgotten all about it by the time the lynch rolled round and even if I had have remembered and thought it significant, there was still no guarantee that Ford was town. Reread your own role PM, maybe you'll find something useful.
You talk about not wanting to speculate before a scum flip, well I feel that way on Day 1- before a flip there's little to go on. I've laid traps with my claims and it's easier to see who's lining up as scum in light of them. It's unorthodox, but it is scum hunting. Now I can't vote, my power to press my claims is limited but I'm still following up on people.
My claims have been truthful except where omiting elements have helped me assess scuminess of others. I'd have to be pretty insane to be making this stuff up.
What do you think of Ranger's inspect? Have you even read it? It's pretty much the most important thing that's happened this day. If I'm scum then Ranger must be scum, right? Does Ranger's activities look scummy to you?
And if I'm scum then Toaster must be scum too: I was about to be lynched and it was only with his co-operation that we got Ford instead. Does a NQT-Ranger-Toaster scum team even make sense?
Obviously, if you're scum or third-party then you won't really care, but if you're town like I think you probably are then you owe it to town to try your damnedest not to mislynch people.
NotQuiteThere, it's hella specious to claim that someone who asks for role data after you've promised is role-fishing. That's entrapment.
I don't mind giving more info where it's reasonable and you can see from my post record that that's exactly what I have been doing after every claim. There's a big difference though between clarifying and saying
absolutely everything about my role regardless of whether it's in town's interests to make that full claim. Is that understandable?
ToasterWait, what? Vector saying she didn't target anyone is verification of your claim?
I should have been more specific: claims that I have made have been independently verified, though not all these claims have yet. I've given more information than anyone else in this game so this should be no surprise. Specifically, my claim not to be able to vote and my claim about my lover's ability have been verified (by the mod and Ranger) and my claim to being immune to lover's kills is at the very least plausible given the lack of a NK, but it's understandable if you want to hold off on believing that until we all know more.
Did you ever watch the original Wicker Man?
At the end, while the cult are burning Sergeant Howie so they can bring a bountiful harvest, the Sergeant says to the leader of the cult that when the harvest fails again there'll only be one person suitable to burn left: the cult leader himself.
I feel a bit like Sergeant Howie. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and helped you burn Ford. He turned out innocent and our crop is still failing. When you mislynch me then where will you be?
GriffA thought on how to tell if we have a cult without a kill ability, does your lover's ability only protect you from being killed, or does it give you ability immunity as well?
Only kills I'm afraid: the Lovers can use non-kill abilities on me all they like. A cult is an interesting idea but what evidence do we actually have on this?
RangerI'm also half expecting something else from NQT
I might say some more about another of my abilities tomorrow if I think it's in town's interests, but I'm not sure that I'll survive the day at this rate (and it's not as if I could tie the vote at the last moment).
ZUI'm really doubtful of NQT's claim at this point. Griffon's paranoia on cultists is kinda strange, but I guess NQT could be a cult leader. Love cult? Dunno lol.
Specifically, which claims do you doubt? What possible incentive would I have to lie about this stuff?
TolyKWould that be a scum or town redirector, though?
Could conceivable be either: all alignments have an incentive to misdirect enemies. If scum redirector, then both Zrk2 and Vector would not be scum.
HapahToaster is town, according to the Truth Magics.
Ooh. This either means that either both you and Toaster are town or you're both scum and you're lying. He's not under any particular danger right now, so I can't see why you'd do that, so my instinct is to think you're both town (notwithstanding the small possibility Toaster has a Godfather type role).
I think I'll have enough info to give proper reads by the end of the day.