Okay, i got 10 minutes to state my business before i gotta go for 4 hours.
Tiruin: Of course i'm sad that i killed a townie, i was the deciding vote there and [...]
Waaaait, now that I look back at it,
UI tied the vote. And...you're sad that you killed a townie? Uhhuh.
That's really one pointed viewpoint you're seeing things at. Tell me, how deep is that level of remorse in you?
What if you voted someone else and they turned up townie? How would your reaction be? If scum/third-party? Basically - what if you voted anyone else? How would you react - in the same manner as you're doing now?
TWS:
First of all, I guess I'm tunneling Tiruin.
...Yes you are. Since that last vote back there, you were. And your case was understandable - now its just a WoT that I had to read to get out the points :/
The reason for this is, I want to get my case heard, and it's taking up most of my time.
And it is being heard. It's being heard by everyone in-game. What makes you think its
not?Now I perceive you're trying to poke me there, or just overstating my intentions perhaps? Latter idea seems more reasonable (though in the form of an ultimatum-type post)
I'll derive my points from your links/quotes, in order.
1. That was not being "overdefensive", it was being explanatory. I do those things because I was thinking that you misunderstood, so I put down everything I thought in clarification. This is also partly (in a minor way) because of timezones. It's pretty annoying posting and waiting for a reply hours away because you live hours ahead of the people you reply to...
2. About your case, it didn't seem much to me (inconsequential? I guess that's a good adjective for it...not exactly what I would describe it as as everything does have a consequence but anyway) because I was thinking along the lines of "Ok...this was already over, and I'm still questioning TolyK. He's poking at...me questioning TolyK? Um..." > Meaning me seeing your case focused on one thing in the past - me voting TolyK; I wanted to see how me voting TolyK paints me as scum in regard to anything else because that's not much to follow. Does it go along the lines of a vote pattern? Logic/the lack of logic? Fear to vote others/pressure others? A complete an utter lie? It's mostly of an I can't get what your point was.
Meaning: It didn't feel much of a scum case more than a pressure case to me. Either of which, what I felt was that you're aiming at one thing finished - me poking TolyK over the ideal nature of a vote when compared to the information gained from or from the lack of voting through conversational methods.
3. I never said, nor intended to point out that your case was of very little importance; (denouncing others' cases is just wrong...It's a bad sign of communication and nothing I'd do as any alignment/role) hence the fact that I was asking you along the line of "how is this scummy" because for me, you were poking at a past reason - I checked it from a third-party reading mode and didn't see much on how this painted me as scum instead of anything else. That was me getting at your reasoning.
About the last part,
She's asked (a) question about something completely different, and before answering it, repeats one last time that my vote isn't important.
...I was talking about TWS - you. Because Griff mentioned you in response to the hypothetical situation of an NK.
I never said your vote was not important. Because right now you're somehow strawmanning it, for the blunt idea of the word.
So yeah, TWS has the only reasonable reason - it lacks definition but it is justified...
is what I said. I understood that, for someone working off the lines on what I said before regarding pressure votes/votes in general, it would be reasonable. I'm saying it was justified because you're explaining it in a precise and matter-of-fact way.
What it lacks is that you're not aiming at looking at what the person has gotten (no questions poking at "Your reads?" or "Anything you've got from the rest/'Not TolyK' ") but aiming at a lurkertracker...or votetracker. That's what I meant by definition. The essence of that case.
Any. Posts. Plural. But when I ask her for what I called a "Phantom Post", singular, she gives me one post.
...And I'm damned because of semantics >_> Ok...What I meant there was that there was nothing mentioned to TolyK though I thought I mentioned it to TolyK.
And to the question of that was all in it - that sounded more like "Was that the complete information?". Unsure how the singular-plural thing goes but that's how I thought it...
I can't tell from the post that she gave whether it was written at that time or not. Perhaps someone else could look for clues? I don't have time now.
Yeah...here's the thing wherein I said that it was hard to justify - you don't know. Nobody knows except for the writer (unless someone is actually hacking into my IP, checking my posts and everything else) due to the fact that the memory storage of these things are
local. The forum only records posts given at the time of when it was posted. Text in a reply box - both quick/conventional have no timestamps or any other signifying point.
Questions:
Tiruin: I'm back from reading your posts like I said I would.
Like you said you would.
Why would you add in that part?
The bolded parts make it very clear that it's not a pressure vote, and why I think she's scum. A bit telling that I say I don't believe her when she says she forgot about it, and then she says she sees my vote as punishment for forgetting.
Yes I got that part. When I said 'pressure vote', it wasn't your intention (because as far as I can get is my read on your intention,) it was how
I saw that case; not me trying to explain your stance on me...Unless I'm getting what you're trying to say here. [I think its a pressure vote, and then I'm scum?]
She said that she had typed out a post asking TolyK questions and it had forgotten to submit it, and that was why she was suspicious of Tolyk, for not answering questions.
I was suspicious of TolyK for more than that...Are you ignoring what else I conversed about, or blatantly tunneling?
And darn do you follow your IC well
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