Zrk: It's not the night kill i think will be more useful, its any investigations and or lack of a night kill that could and would be more useful. If no night kill happens, we have someone with a doctor-esque ability. If anyone has investigation abilities, they can use them. The night can confirm suspicions, create new ones, and quell others. Thats my thinking there. Why do you think a Lynch will provide more information?
I did not say a lynch would provide more information, just that any death will produce the same amount of information, all other things being equal. Other than that I see your point about actions and not just the NK. However speculation on actions during the night can often get WIFOMy because of the abundance of roles in play in this game.
(pseudo-pressure? The term is lost to me but it deals with pressure)
Implied pressure. You don't have to actually vote for someone for your vote to be threatening to them. Like robbing a bank by putting your fingers in your pocket and claiming it's a gun. If people believe you will vote for them they will act like you are already voting for them. IIRC.
...it's also worth noting that NQT originally wanted to use the ability on himself, or so he says. I don't know what to make of that.
If he's town, maybe he tried to use it as a sideways vig, expecting that he'd get lynched and take someone out with him.
Along the same line of reasoning it could be just as useful, if not moreso to the scum because they could set up two town, then kill one the night, or two nights before LYLO and win the game a day early.
Simply from NQT's claim he seems to be town. If he was scum and he had the ability, why wouldn't he just fire it off without announcing it? If he was scum without the ability, why would he claim he had it? PPE: There's also Ranger's point, which is a good one.
If he is scum he could be using it as a smokescreen to distract us from whatever else he or his buddies are up to. If he is scum he might want to announce it in case the people targeted claim it and cause a fuss and try to find out who did it.
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I did not make the case that there should be no scumhunting D1, I said that policy lynches or acceptable. Obviously if someone seems very scummy then we should lynch them. But baring overtly obvious scum then a policy lynch of a lurker/terrible scumhunter is not a terrible alternative.
Lynching a lurker gives next to no information, though, right? People with meaningful interactions give a lot more information.
It doesn't, but letting a lurker live will generate even less because they won't do anything the next day either. I believe that in the long run lynching lurker will provide more information because the lurker wouldn't be doing anything the next day either.
Ugh. You're being obstinate about the lurker won't do anything during the next day. What makes you so sure about that?! Faulty logic.
Precedent is generally quite good at predicting future actions.
If lynching a lurker gives next to no information, letting a lurker live generates no information. True.
I'd like to point you to--...wait, what. I was going to quote the OP but then Webadict has no policy on lurkers. Webadict, when are prods sent to those who didn't post within a given time limit??
It is disappointing.
The weekends, though, seem to justify the...'lurk' (Except Soldier who looks to have lost connection lately,) the whole case above points to one thing. Lynch lurkers because it will provide more information than lynching whomever is scummier, regardless of any case ongoing at the moment?! You didn't mention anything along these lines, ever. Nor did you answer Griff's questions regarding your Ranger case here.
Second, is your case with Ranger going anywhere? Its running in circles about his opinion when you could've asked it (the questions you're doing now) earlier. Do you have anything else regarding Ranger other than that?
Currently Ranger hasn't been up to much, so I don't have anything to add.
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But you yourself admit you don't know how he plays when scummy and requested us to reconsider our votes and logic anyway; using only this outside data that normally would not be applied. Which is as you say causing caution on our reads, which is a town goal. But the fashion you did it in, and your resulting suspicions from our reactions seem targeted to disrupt all our chains of logic, cause us to suspect each-other more, and throw us into confusion which is a VERY scum goal. But you wouldn't be so blatant in fulfilling that goal if you were scum, so you must be town... WIFOM.
If you are scum I must applaud how well this was done, if you're town WHY???. Please explain why you chose to do it that way, when you got no solid reads from it.
Because my brain isn't fucking working right?
Seriously, it's not like I planned to be a complete waste of space. But you're completely overthinking this. I said the stuff about Zrk2 because it's honestly what I think. I feel sorry for the guy, and I want to give him a chnce even if it means I get lynched for standing up for him.
Well thanks. I'll try to be worthy of it.
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