>VECTOR< (yes thats a vote) why'd you just sit on my plate of pizza?
Because you can't seem to remember that I'm female,
RangerCado.
Here is a picture. Don't forget it.
i picked vector just that hes a good scum player and will remove when he posts.
So you're tagging me and will remove the vote regardless of what I say. . . fascinating. Why did you think this was a good idea, again?
Just to be vague, one of my abilities is more viable to use the more i know about others.
My role isn't really suited for scumhunting
I have a proposition for everyone, Since this would only give everyone a vague hint, should we all say what element/object/thing we decided to have our role based off of? If four or more people agree to this, i'll then start with my element/object/thing just so i can form some sort of trust... in retrospec, this will probably just make me seem more scummy but i stick by this. atleast for now.
WetSheep: Not to give anything away, but my role allows both aggresive and passive play. i'll probably play cautiously for now until we can get some useful intel.
You sound nervous and somewhat obsessive. Do you consider yourself useless outside of your role's powers? Why or why not?
The only thing i can really be positive of is that, for the time being, a lynch won't help Town much unless there is definite proof.
Do you agree or disagree with the following statement:
"Mafia is a game based on gathering information."
Currently i have no solid suspicions of anyone, but would like to see what those who haven't posted yet think. I'll take my vote off Vector when he either posts, i get suspicions, or when the day is half over and i need to stop trying to interegate someone not posting.
You have an interesting definition of interrogation. Also an interesting way of encouraging lurkers to post.
Since Vector has nothing to say i'll unvote her for now and focus on other things.
Captain: Who appears to be the most scummy to you right now besides Hapah for not answering?
On my next post i'll say some of my suspicions since i can get a good 2-3 hours studying this mess of quotes. Also, i think for now i'll vote No Lynch as i still believe it to be the best course for now.
Why did you decide not to vote for Captain here as you question him (or, better yet, add some pressure to that vote on me)? I'll also add that that list of "suspicions" didn't seem to have much suspicion in it.
if its an SK we may have saved ourselves a lot of trouble.
This is provided that you are able to find the SK.
Okay, i don't want to be a liar so i'll say a couple suspicions i have that may have no basis other than gut feeling.
NUMBER 1: I believe that there are atleast 2 roles out there that will investigating during the day. This is more gut feeling that anything else. One could also be that Truth-Finder role i mentioned earlier.
NUMBER 2: Atleast 2-3 of us currently talking (Death, Captain, Toaster, Zrk, Tiruin, Urist, Tolyk, Hapah, notquitethere) are Mafia. There are still 4-5 people who haven't posted yet or did and i forgot their name. There may be a 4th (or the 3rd) in those that haven't posted but i think 2 of those mentioned is a reliable guess. We don't know how many mafia we're looking for but 3 seems a good estimate for now.
NUMBER 3: Toaster and Griff have been trying to get the most reads on people with Tiruin not far behind. This leads me to believe that either their playing very good scum or 1 of them is. I don't think any two of them of together but all or one of them have me on edge. I can't shake the feeling that one of them atleast is subtely targeting someone.
More on all this in 2-3 hours. i have to finish the school day and then thouroghly read through all these posts. See you then guys.
Excellent description. Please explain, in detail, how your theories are something more than a conjecture and smoke screen. You seem to post a lot, but none of it has any substance whatsoever--the pattern is that you explain you can't scumhunt because of ~your role~, and then post a lot of statements with no data, and then tell us you want to no-lynch because there is no information to be had.
This is the question you should be asking yourself: why is it that everyone else seems to have a lot of data, and I have none?
Oh, and:
NUMBER 1: Gut feeling is usually based on a lot of experience, or rather the product of a lot of assumed subconscious data processing based on a large data set. What is your data set on which you are drawing? I would assume that it is the varied games you are reading, but they have clearly not taught you how to play.
NUMBER 2: 14 - 10 = 4 > 3.
NUMBER 3: People are trying to get reads => one must be very, very talented scum?
Bullshit.
NQT: I have agreed with most of your statements thus far so i have little to suspect you on so far.
What does agreement with statements have to do with level of suspicion?
Vector: How does a relatively higher quantity of newer players affect RVS for you?
Hmm. . . I'd say it makes RVS more useful, or at the very least easier (all else being equal about the total headcount), though unfortunately my late entry into the game means that I won't be able to capitalize on this as much as I might have liked. Most of the newbies seem to have had their trial by fire already, which means that it honestly shouldn't matter too much in terms of being incapable of determining alignment.
Vector: Who are you most afraid of as scum, and as town? Who would you like to be paired with most as scum?
Also, if you had a one-shot inspect, when would you use it -- regardless of alignment?
Town: Webadict, Pandarsenic, and Leafsnail. Scum: Dakarian, Jim Groovester, Rysith.
As scum, I'd prefer to be paired with whoever feels like talking a lot in the scumchat and playing a magnificent game. It's really more about feeding off each other's moods than it is about anything else. Uh. . . actually, if I have to name names, top choices would probably be Solifuge and Free Beer, maybe Leafsnail. They seem to be pretty consistently up for shenanigans.
If I were scum, I'd use the inspect when I thought I'd found a third party, preferably near LYLO.
If I were town, I'd probably inspect the strongest player of whom I was least certain on D2 or later, with the possible caveat of checking the newest or lurkiest players. Basically, whatever gives the most information.
If I were a third party, I have no idea. I very, very infrequently roll up third party, so I honestly don't know how I'd play one.
Vector: How do you think abilities not being revealed on flip will affect the game?
I'd possibly expect a role that give intel on dead players, as is common in Werewolf; or possibly there's a player that can siphon off of the dead, as in Totem 2. Speculation aside, if we really have no way to access the abilities then this means that not only may we have more trouble with scum fakeclaims, but that it will be harder to do things like lynching folks to confirm night data.
Vector, what's our Victor? Err, whatever. Why do you think you were one of the leading roles in the flavor at the beginning, considering Wuba said it would be a medium-flavor game?
Hmm. . . my best guess right now is random.org, or maybe a welcome-back. But let me just check something real quick:
Vector conjures a crown.
TheWetSheep: If you were a third party what third party would you want to be? Why?
TolyK: What is your favourite town role? Scum role? Third party?
What is the purpose of these questions?
Ranger: Why did you choose to ask a question unrelated to the game to Vector?
Deathsword, why is your major contribution to the game at this point a question that hops on other people's investigation and arguments?
Tolyk
NQT, what do you think about there being quite a few people here who won't go the "traditional" way (i.e. newbies/foreigners/whoevertheybe)?
It spices things up a bit. I don't think their scum reads will be that different. Do you?
Do you really think that there is no learning process involved vis-a-vis the epistemology of scumminess?
TheWetSheep, you probably picked water, huh? 
Just kidding. Who do you think will be lynched today (by category, not names), and if you were a day investigator, how would you pick someone to investigate? (Investigate alignment, action or whatever).
Hah. That, or, white fluffy barnyard animals. Who'll be lynched? Town, at a guess. It may sound pessimistic, but Day 1 you have very little to no concrete information to base accusations off of. Also, there are a few new-ish people in this game.
Why didn't you answer the rest of TolyK's question?
If someone traced a daykill on a townie back to me, they may not accept that I was certain of their scumminess. This has a good chance of leading to a mislynch, and adding the NK, that means 3 dead townies. With no chance of tracing me, the town has a better chance of lynching actual scum.
You will play this game better when you have more self-confidence.
Random votes themselves aren't particularly useful - you're unlikely to make someone crack with them unless they're inexperienced or prone to paranoia/overreactions. RVS is a necessary evil to start discussion without a N0, but there's a reason we try to get out of RVS fast.
NQT: It's the night before LYLO, and you have an unused 1-shot alignment inspect. The remaining other players are myself, a chronic lurker, an experienced and hard-to-read player, a newbie, and an "average" player you're leaning town on. Who would you inspect, and why?
If you try to get out of RVS fast and there's been so many pages of data, why are you still asking RVS questions?
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