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[Reudh]

oh well. Brb, marrying into a wealthy family. Seems like that's the only option to get ahead anymore- reduced uni funding, reduced tafe funding, no science minister? Fuck it, let's go feudal again. Bags not doing the stables.

[sneakey pete]

I was under the impression that there was a requirement to reduce the number of ministers, or is that just something i got into my head for no reason?

[Max White]

No there certainly was, there is a maximum. Abbott cut science and other good things to get different ministries.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

which ones do you think are more frivolous\nefarious?

[Max White]

I think we could very easily drop Sport in the face of Science. Especially, especially as a cabinet position. We do not need a 'Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Centenary of ANZAC'. While ANZAC day is important, you don't need a fucking ministry to help plan it. I would argue that while we have a ministry for justice we don't need a minister of women whos sole job it is to reduce domestic violence against women, especially when one third of domestic violence is against men, it is an important issue but not the kind of issue to give a ministry to for a single gender.

[Descan]

Ministry of Science, Ministry of Education, Ministry of Youth, Ministry of Military, Ministry of Immigration, Ministry of the Environment, Ministry of Transportation, Ministry of Internal Affairs, Ministry of Domestic Violence, Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs, Ministry of Diplomatdudes, Ministry of Law (?)

Did I miss any required ones for an Australian nation?

[Askot Bokbondeler]

ministry of poisonous fauna proliferation?

[Mini]

That happens fine without a minister.

[Frumple]

No, no... I'd have to disagree. For one, Australia is still populated by human life. For the other, it's still populated by human life and the blood of native Australians isn't a universal antidote. Clearly, there is still work to be done. The experiment still hasn't produced one of its intended outcomes.

[Mini]

Well with no science how are we meant to tell when that happens?

[Scoops Novel]

Anyway, who did you roll with Jimmykins?

http://pirateparty.org.au/

Too bad there's not a Ninja Party too. Then we could hold an election and settle the age old debate once and for all.

Anyway, I like their 16 point manifesto:

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• The Pirate Party will prevent dragnet, warrantless monitoring or retention of Internet data.
• The Pirate Party will ensure that individuals have a legally protected right to control data collection on devices they own.
• The Pirate Party will oppose any mandatory censorship or Internet filtering infrastructure.
• The Pirate Party will enact additional protections for individual privacy rights.
• The Pirate Party will introduce tighter controls and accountability measures covering the use of visual surveillance.
• The Pirate Party will strengthen shield laws for journalists.
• The Pirate Party will ensure that there are no blanket exemptions from the Freedom of Information Act for any Government agency.
• The Pirate Party will push for negotiations to begin on an international treaty for a free and open Internet.
• The Pirate Party will ensure that any data that is collected about you will have limited retention time, strictly defined purpose and limited access.
• The Pirate Party will ensure that you can always find out what data is being collected about you and will not allow that data to be sent overseas without your consent.
• The Pirate Party will protect whistleblowers who expose government corruption and the abuse of your rights.
• The Pirate Party will restore the role of Human Rights Commissioner with a mandate to focus on civil liberties and freedom of speech, expression and assembly.
• The Pirate Party will legislate the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights into law.
• The Pirate Party will offer a referendum for a bill of rights focused on individual liberties including a right to privacy, free speech and freedom of assembly.
• The Pirate Party will ensure that government agencies and private organisations are obliged to report data breaches.
• The Pirate Party will remove body scanners from Australian airports.

http://getawarrant.org.au/

Certainly not a party I'd want deciding the national budget, but there's plenty on that list I support.

How do they seek to retain transparency? If anyone wants to rant about the breakdown of the representative and moral worth of a party go ahead.


As for the Liberal's, what won them the election, and is a vote of no confidence in the offing? Do you want to hit me, tell me to look at some articles, and then give me some articles? *looking at articles

[Max White]

Hoo boy, fans are about to be shat on.
So the ACT (Australian Capital Territory, think of it as being similar to the state of Washington) has decided fuck the feds, we got our own level of government! They managed to pretty easily get through a bill that will permit same sex marriage. Drinks all around! Anything but Russian Vodka!
But every party needs a pooper. Mr Abbott don't roll that way, he has pretty much said that he will be looking to see how he can lawyer is way into this and stop the bill by declaring it unlawful. Assuming it is, however, found to be lawful then his only option will be to try and get something through the houses. As the federal government can change state level laws, he could do this, but getting it through the senate will be interesting.
The important bit here is that a marriage is a marriage once it is done anywhere in Australia, so it would be totally legit for same sex couples from all over to holiday in Canberra for their marriage, dealing a huge blow against homophobic douchebags.

[alexandertnt]

Ugh, just let the bill pass. The issue of gay marrage is not going to go away until it is legalised.

As for the Liberal's, what won them the election, and is a vote of no confidence in the offing? Do you want to hit me, tell me to look at some articles, and then give me some articles? *looking at articles

What?

[Edmus]

Hoo boy, fans are about to be shat on.
So the ACT (Australian Capital Territory, think of it as being similar to the state of Washington) has decided fuck the feds, we got our own level of government! They managed to pretty easily get through a bill that will permit same sex marriage. Drinks all around! Anything but Russian Vodka!
But every party needs a pooper. Mr Abbott don't roll that way, he has pretty much said that he will be looking to see how he can lawyer is way into this and stop the bill by declaring it unlawful. Assuming it is, however, found to be lawful then his only option will be to try and get something through the houses. As the federal government can change state level laws, he could do this, but getting it through the senate will be interesting.
The important bit here is that a marriage is a marriage once it is done anywhere in Australia, so it would be totally legit for same sex couples from all over to holiday in Canberra for their marriage, dealing a huge blow against homophobic douchebags.

Go ACT run to freedom!

[Max White]

I know ACT territory and local level government have been desperately been pushing for a build in the tourism industry. Being the only capital city without a coast is a bit of a set back for a nation that loves its beaches. As such gay marriage is just the trump card that locals want to see. If Abbott does oppose this he is going to be facing a bloody battle here, especially on something that is a heavily divided issue to start with. Even within the Liberal party Turnbull and a few loyal supporters still lurk, hoping for a chink in the armor so they can do some good for a change, and in opposition Labor has a much stronger position to more openly oppose legislation.

A small part of me doesn't want to see the double dissolution just so that we get the full three years of drama.