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[Seriyu]

To all prospective miners: You will be able to make a lot of money off me once you get to being able to mine lead and silver. So if you're hurting for money and don't like browsing shops/setting up stalls, that's the way. Tell me if you've got lead or silver, I'll need a lot of it! Really metal in general. Ya know what, for now I'll just be buying lead and silver. Maybe iron and copper later on.

[Leyic]

So, guild, let's discuss crafting for a moment.

There don't seem to be any restrictions for equipping gear. With the game being so pvp and gvg centric, it'd be to our advantage to kit our members with decent gear. But with all the interdependencies between professions, the difficulty in acquiring certain materials, and the upgrade system with its different sets of materials, finding an optimal way to produce the gear poses a logistical dilemma.

We could rely on individual members being responsible for themselves. They'd aqcuire their own materials, whether by producing them or asking or trading for them, and notify the appropriate guild memebers to have the gear produced and upgraded. It's a tried and true method, but the results would be uneven.

We could rely on members that focus on trade skills producing things of their own volition. The results could be more even, but gathering materials is time consuming, and higher-teir materials have to be fought over, wether violently or financially. Even if we find a way to keep the crafters reasonably supplied, they'd need to communicate with the appropriate upgraders so upgrade materials can be produced and at the ready.

We could treat this like a guild project, prioritizing what equipment needs to be produced, determining what materials are needed, and having everyone contribute in different ways. This could be more efficient, but it would fall apart if enough people don't go along with it. It's also potentially not fun and could lead to feelings of inequality and unfairness, and eventual drama.

This is presupposing we want to do any of this. We could just leave things be and see what happens. There's not a lot of guild territory available in the first place, and we still need to work on our individual strength levels and run instances before we start to become competitive. Maybe pve will be enough to keep people entertained and interested in the guild.

Thoughts? Opinions? Who is/isn't interested in gvg? Is planning this out doomed to folley?

tl;dr capitalism or communism? gvg, yes or no?

[Seriyu]

I think a solid plan is something that's gonna be hard to enforce in general, but let it be known that I have no qualms for craftsmen setting their own rules. If you want people to pay for your stuff/aquire mats for it, then be my guest. I'm quickly realizing vigor is a very valuable resource for getting money and I completely understand if people don't want to feel like they're "wasting" it.

[Seriyu]

Double post because this has fallen off page one, and also, we're getting a lot of weapon manuals! I'm already busy making  tons of weapons. Come join us! You can one day be a part of a guild hopefully taking territory, and if you join now you can actually contribute later and not basically die over and over again.

[Seriyu]

triple post auauagauah

From now on we'll be splitting instance runs into two groups, the normal late night ones (around reset time) and ones in the afternoon (exact time not yet decided, I'll get one up eventually when we see what time people are usually on). Note you are not being forced to do these, this is a test run, if you are not up for an instance don't feel compelled. With that said even a new guy is helpful so don't not run it just because you feel like you're a wuss. Because it's impossible for you to be enough of a wuss to be useless on the instance runs we're doing.

Note that scheduled instance runs are not a permanant fixture and will be dropped whenever we get enough people to perform impromptu instance runs regularly.

Also Zhao is now a vice leader, so message/friend ZhaoJia when you're ready to apply in game, (You can still message me, Menos to get applied too if you feel like it but if I'm not on there's an alternative).

[LordBucket]

Tnx.Fury requested that we do Twilight Village, so if there's interest we might do that instead of family challenges next reset. At least the first two bosses. After that it gets kind of messy.

In other news, I just unlocked my second internal. Apparently it will take a couple days of leveling until it will be as good as where I left off training first internal. Nobody expect to get a huge power boost at first internal 30. Instead it's looking like a brief plateau.

[Seriyu]

Yeah internals are more then anything, different. I see a lot of emei using the first internal, stilt walking, since a lot of people use emei to tank. More then anything I think emei are pretty handy with their internals because they seem to be fairly all around in a lot of things, so an internal can push them from say, tanking to DPS or whatever, depending on what the internal actually does. Whereas is an internal isn't focusing on tanking or DoTs for a royal guard it's kind've a pile unless you're using it to rank up other school meridians.

[LordBucket]

Related, I received some advice from my school sisters about dps last night. Apparently I'm doing a tenth the damage I should be because I've been developing skills in such a way that I never run out of energy. Might take a couple days to level up some skills I've been neglecting, but if what they tell me is accurate, in theory I should be able to put out 4k+ damage bursts.

an internal can push them from say, tanking to DPS or whatever

All our internals relate to tanking. Stilt walking gives us damage absorbtion to our parry, five talisman script gives damage absorbtion out of parry, and flying crescent feather gives a vampiric effect that applies a HoT whenever we hit something. None of our internals give any damage benefits at all.

The role-switch seems to come from our skillsets. Palm is low-dps, with a semi-spammable but limited self-heal and a periodic party-wide damage absorbtion shield. Twin sting is a spiky burst AoE damage that requires a lot of setup and has 8 second intervals between doing damage. And single daggers I'm still trying to figure out. It seems to be a pvp/utility set.

[Seriyu]

Well, you can get other schools internals, but yeah for a while emei's are kinda shoehorned into tanking.

[Seriyu]

Posting this here because the game is stupid about URLs. Go here, sign up, PM me in game with your forum username. DO NOT POST THEM HERE. In the future I'll give people the URL in game via private chat somehow but of all the censoring in this game the URL censoring is the most thorough.

[Seriyu]

More posting, as we've got an applicant, "LoveFist", is anyone from B12 that guy? Or should I go through a bit more thorough process to make sure he's not gonna throw fits in guild chat?

[LordBucket]

More posting, as we've got an applicant, "LoveFist", is anyone from B12 that guy? Or should I go through a bit more thorough process to make sure he's not gonna throw fits in guild chat?

My advice would be to clarify the decorum rules and put them on the forum. Since we apparently need to be online at the same time as an applicant to approve, inform people at time of approval that this is a guild for intelligent, mature adults, and direct them to the rules. Be prepared to boot people who are obnoxious. If a few slip by, then newcomers who are exposed to it see that trash talking is acceptable conduct and they come to expect it. If we have an established group of reasonable people, newcomers see that and come to expect that instead.

[Seriyu]

Not a bad idea, he got into contact with me anyway, and it ends up he was crossbowcarps alt so.

[Seriyu]

Doublepost, we've done our first forbidden instance! Which are basically.... Iunno Mini Raids? I don't know a lot about WoW, but it seemed a little short for a traditional raid. Which is probably for the better honestly. Join up, you'll probably be simultaneously pleasantly surprised and irritated at how bad the GUI is irregardless.

[LordBucket]

t seemed a little short for a traditional raid.

We stopped because the server was going down. We only made it halfway through. There were three more event sequences.