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[tirekyll]

What exactly is so terrible about World of Warcraft?

Time to throw my rock.

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I have always played games for the lore. Always. I played Warcraft III, and it's expansion The Frozen Throne, and the lore in those games was great, if a bit bloated by the time the expansion came about.

Then you had WoW come along, and in shrinking the scale of the player, they utterly destroyed their lore. The scope of the lore increased to cover every single speck of dust on both continents, and I found the world a lot less interesting when a newly created orc warlock had to walk all the way to Orgrimmar to deliver the Great McGuffin to Thrall, or something similar.

Which brings me to my next point: the stories were less interesting. There was no personal motivation for your character's actions in quests. Everything you were doing was at the behest of some person you barely knew. I suppose this is an innate flaw of MMOs, though; there's no character development. You play the same damn person through eighty or so levels: a person easily replaced by a flat cardboard cutout.

Finally, there's the incredible(and i mean incredible) plot discrepancies introduced by the expansions. Which was it, Burning Crusade? Introduced the blood elves on the side of the HORDE. With the UNDEAD, and the ORCS, who their people had been fighting for *centuries*. Against their recently broken-up allies, the humans, dwarves, etc. The Draenei somehow find a *spaceship* and smash it into Azeroth, somehow losing their strange carapaces and becoming beautiful blue space aliens with glowing eyes that bear a striking resemblance to night elves. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDQPVFCR1m8   Check 0:00 to 0:40. The first guy that speaks is a Draenei.) Oh. Just looked it up. Apparently they had to make a massive retcon just to explain why the Draenei look different, saying that fel energies from Outland mutated them - despite them having originated from Outland in the first place! Wrath of the Lich King made it cool for /everyone/ to become a death knight! Whopee! Cataclysm added a race supposedly from a 'legendary kingdom'- one I've certainly never heard of before! Never seen a Worgen in any of the Warcraft games, as if their lore wasn't bloated enough. And then Mists of Pandaria. My god. They took the Pandaren, which were entirely a *joke*- no, really! The only Pandaren that ever showed up in either WCIII game were as a joke reward for beating the secret bonus level of the 'human' campaign of WCIII:TFT, and then they were hireable in multiplayer maps from the Tavern building. And they made these guys into a serious, full-fledged race. Not to mention adding an entire new continent for them.

TL;DR: WoW ruined the lore of my favorite RTS games, and did a really shitty job of telling no story whatsoever.
Yeah, no, never touching that game again.

I'm sorry but what?

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draenei are from Draenor. Outland is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PLANET. Oh, and, the ship the draenei brought to Azeroth was named Exodar, which was a transport ship that traveled from Outland to Draenor. Worgen are actually humans with a virus running through them, much like werewolves. They come from a part of EK that was never explored in a game previous to WoW, yet was brought up in the novels. Goblins are from an island near the maelstrom that's always been there according to lore. So where is this "magical kingdom" you speak of? Pandaren were also brought up in the novels, and were only brought in due to mass demand they were added. Oh, btw, the Pandaren continent was shrouded by fog for centuries. The other continent is a wandering turtle.

L2lore before posting. Oh and read a book once in awhile.

[Darkmere]

Nice. While you're still a lunatic you necro an old thread, tell off someone while you're in the wrong, and come off as arrogant. Well.

Read the intro, Draenor is Outland.
Gilneas has entries for Warcraft II and III.

... and that's all the effort I care to put in. Enjoy your stay on the forums though, I'm sure you'll go far with your bubbly personality.

[hemmingjay]

Darkmere, I suspect that is an alt somebody created just for that purpose. The writing is familiar.

[Lightning4]

Well, he IS right about one thing. The Draenei aren't from Draenor/Outland.
They're from Argus. They fled to Draenor after Sargeras and the Burning Legion came by and corrupted pretty much everybody.


Though, I honestly don't know if their homeworld was a retcon or simply an unknown before TBC.

[Sonlirain]

Well, he IS right about one thing. The Draenei aren't from Draenor/Outland.
They're from Argus. They fled to Draenor after Sargeras and the Burning Legion came by and corrupted pretty much everybody.


Though, I honestly don't know if their homeworld was a retcon or simply an unknown before TBC.

It was a retcon.
They first appeared as (Ugly) outland natives in W3:TFT
Then when TBC came about they got retconned into pretty blue goatpeople refugees from argus.
The ugly ones encountered in W3 (and during questing) are explained by draenai being suspectible to mutation when exposed to fel energies.

[Lightning4]

It was a retcon.
They first appeared as (Ugly) outland natives in W3:TFT
Then when TBC came about they got retconned into pretty blue goatpeople refugees from argus.
The ugly ones encountered in W3 (and during questing) are explained by draenai being suspectible to mutation when exposed to fel energies.

Ah, alright. I couldn't remember too much since I haven't played much WC3, and about all I knew of the Draenei pre-TBC were the fully corrupt ones that sat around in Swamp of Sorrows.

TBC also added the Broken, which were kind of a mid-level corruption tier between the "regular" Draenei and the fully corrupt Draenei. Basically, bridging the gap.

[Darkmere]

Darkmere, I suspect that is an alt somebody created just for that purpose. The writing is familiar.

Ah, my mistake then. I sometimes forget what the internet is all about.