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Should I try WoW again?
« on: March 18, 2013, 04:11:36 pm »

So yeah. Bay12 somehow doesn't have a thread for the biggest MMO ever, so I guess I'll just ask my question like this.

Does anyone think WoW is still worth playing, or are there better MMOs (with at least a comparable amount of players) available? I only ever played casually, my strongest character is still just a level 87 Warlock, gave up on it shortly after MoP since I didn't feel like leveling. I'm bored, though, and WoW is still really popular.

Does anyone else here still play, and if so do you think it's worth the subscription fee? My fully upgraded WoW account is on EU, by the way, so I don't really consider switching to the more popular US servers an option.
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Re: Should I try WoW again?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2013, 04:20:26 pm »

Eh...with the quality of F2P being fairly strong right now, especially considering all the major MMOs that have gone F2P in the last year, and the fact WoW's content isn't any fresher....I'd say check out Guild Wars, The Secret World or the other half dozen potentials before you spend real money.
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Re: Should I try WoW again?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2013, 04:30:24 pm »

Depending on the reasons you played wow for :

- for the familiar content - NO
- for the lore - NO
- for your friends - possibly, try to save them from WoW first
- for the NEW content - NO
- for the pve - NO
- for the pvp - lol

Also what Nenjin said, with the current and up-coming games going entirely F2P or just the price of the game, you'd have to either have a really bad pc, or be really dim to play WoW again.
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Re: Should I try WoW again?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2013, 04:33:01 pm »

No. Seriously, don't.

Like seriously.
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Re: Should I try WoW again?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2013, 04:43:26 pm »

What exactly is so terrible about World of Warcraft? When I played it last time I had fun, and that was around the release of MoP. It can't have changed that drastically. That said, I never participated in any higher-end raids or PvP so I might be missing something there.

What other good MMOs are out there? I was considering Guild Wars but it just looks like a second WoW to me. Not really interested in The Secret World. How about SWTOR? Other than the horrible F2P business model, is there any huge drawback to it? And how about the new Runescape '07 servers? (Don't anyone dare say Runescape is bad! :P )
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Re: Should I try WoW again?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2013, 04:59:49 pm »

As someone who liked WoW for its familiar characters lore and other crap.
Along with Cata almost every single notable character is missing or dead.
So yeah...

Unless you have some GOOD friends playing WoW already stay away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kslv7l75jQ

This cat is the perfect analogy to what happened to WoW after WotLK.
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Re: Should I try WoW again?
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2013, 05:05:24 pm »

Well, to be honest I was never that into the lore. Leveling goes so much faster when you don't read every quest. :P
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Re: Should I try WoW again?
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2013, 05:08:31 pm »

Wow in the end has some sort of appeal, but not much.
Sure, there are the scripted events and the phasing stuff and the wide battles, but same thing is with Guild Wars 2 and in there, there's no monthly subscription.
I have guild wars 2, but I play scarcely. I don't feel bad with myself knowing that no matter what, I have the game and won't need to pay a monthly fee to keep on playing it.
A lot of MMO go F2P.
If you want a grindfest, I think Everquest is there. If you want a plot-heavy thing...meh, MMO aren't generally on the plot, but Guild Wars 2 does have a sort-of 'welcome in the world' stuff with a few 'personal' quests.
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Re: Should I try WoW again?
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2013, 05:54:37 pm »

Vanilla WoW was fun but had some issues.  Burning Crusade was good but also had some issues, my personal favorite being the absurd spike in the gear curve when you went into Outland combined with the look of the available greens.  Anything less than Naxxaramas purple gear was outclassed by the level 61 greens you got in the first zone of Outland.  I came in looking fly as fuck and within an hour I looked like a level 15 again.

Wrath of the Lich King was cool, but by that point I was getting bored of the whole thing.

I tried to play it again after Cata but couldn't get into it.  I feel like it's slowly on its way out, I don't know anyone who still plays it.

EDIT:  I'm not sure all the kneejerk hate is warranted, though.
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Re: Should I try WoW again?
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2013, 06:03:54 pm »

No.
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Re: Should I try WoW again?
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2013, 06:05:02 pm »

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Re: Should I try WoW again?
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2013, 06:16:35 pm »

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Re: Should I try WoW again?
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2013, 06:20:27 pm »

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What exactly is so terrible about World of Warcraft?

For me:

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Vanilla WoW was fun but had some issues.  Burning Crusade was good but also had some issues, my personal favorite being the absurd spike in the gear curve when you went into Outland combined with the look of the available greens.  Anything less than Naxxaramas purple gear was outclassed by the level 61 greens you got in the first zone of Outland.  I came in looking fly as fuck and within an hour I looked like a level 15 again.

Fun fact about that. The reason for the gear "spike" is because after 60, Blizzard nerfed the co-efficient between stats and their derived bonuses. So if 150 Str got you X prior to level 60, after 60 150 Str = .8X. And the coefficient just kept getting worse every time you leveled, until the point where your mid-tier 60 raid gear was worth diddly squat. Once I clued in, I'd ding and watch alllll my relevant derived stats except for HP inch downward. They did it in order to reign in stat inflation so they could control it for the future. Kind of like when they introduced "Ratings" for everything in an effort to slip in yet another co-efficient between statistics and their functional values, to slow down stat inflation.

But the deliberate nerfing of stats to drive people to replace their gear and rob them of their power going into the expansion was really the first major strike against Blizzard in my book as a WoW player.
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Re: Should I try WoW again?
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2013, 10:54:33 pm »

what did you like about it is the question.

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Re: Should I try WoW again?
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2013, 12:27:03 am »

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Does anyone else here still play, and if so do you think it's worth the subscription fee?

No. Even if were f2p I don't think I'd still play. For me, it got stale. End of Burning Crusade through early Wrath was about the peak for WoW, I think. I stopped playing about halfway through Wrath, came back for Cata and it was never really the same. Played Cata for 6 months or so of not really enjoying it and then stopped. Now I hear it has pandas. Never felt the need to resubscribe.

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for the pvp - lol

Honestly I really enjoyed WoW's pvp. For a while. For a time. But pretty much all of that time was all pre-Cata. Wow's been on the decline for years. Even during Wrath people knew it was going downhill. It's just been a slow decline.

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What exactly is so terrible about World of Warcraft? When I played it last time I had fun, and that was around the release of MoP. It can't have changed that drastically. That said, I never participated in any higher-end raids or PvP so I might be missing something there.

...probably everyone would give you a different answer. For me, raiding was a big part of my gameplay. And the big thing was that I never really found a raiding guild I liked after Cataclysm. A huge part of WoW is the people you play with, and if you have people you like to play with it doiesn't matter as much of the game is only so-so. If you have friends who play Wow, yes it might be fun to go play with them. But without that...meh.

A lot of the "fun" I had in my last year of WoW wasn't any of the new content, but rather was going back and doing old content and reliving past glories. And the rest was pretty much just grinding achievements, pets, mounts, etc.

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How about SWTOR?

It is awful. That said, it is free. Go ahead and try it out. The game is awful, but some of the cutscenes are entertaining. In particular I recommend playing a Sith Warrior so you can see the Vette storyline. In my opinion, she was absolutely the best thing about SWTOR.

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Other than the horrible F2P business model, is there any huge drawback to it?

It's a single player game, with single player quests and a single player story line and single player dialogue...with a multiplayer chat feature.

I exagerate slightly. But not by a lot. The multiplayer features are seriously lacking in comparison to the single player features. But they made it multiplayer, and then balanced the leveling system to assume that you would do a lot of multiplayer content...and then restricted it so that you can only do a limited amount of that multiplayer content without paying for access to it thereby requiring you to either do a lot of grinding or track down each and every single last possible quest in order to just barely keep up with the leveling curve. You're limited to the number of "dungeons" and things you can do...I think something like two per week, unless you pay $5 at a time to unlock them. Which is a nuisance itself, but ultimately that multiplayer content is not a lot of fun. Space combat, for example, is on rails. You don't actually control your ship, it just flies on a pre-programmed path and the gameplay itself is mostly spam clicking on everything. Pvp is not grouped by level or gear, so after waiting in the queue to be placed into a battleground....something you can only do a couple times a week without paying extra...you'll generally spend most of the time running up into a crowd only to be cut down in seconds, then respawn.

It could go on at great length about the problems with SWTOR, but basically...it just wasn't very well thought out and the company that made it didn't know what they were doing. I is an adequate single player game with some good voice acting and likable characters, but you sometimes have to play through 3-5 hours at a time of terribly dull, boring, awful bad gameplay just to get to the next cutscene. After a while it just stops being worthwhile.

Incidentally, if you do decide to give SWTOR a try, consider buying $5 worth of premier tokens on day one, as making even a single purchase unlocks quite a few things, some of which will make the game less obnoxious. I'm not saying the game is worth playing. But if you're going to play...plan to spend the $5 or don't bother.

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What other good MMOs are out there?

How about try Eve. Here's a 21 day free trial. We have a bay12 group with about 30 members right now. Here's the thread.

Eve is very much a case of "some people like it, some people don't" but...free trial. Give it a try.


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