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[Sprin]

but didn't Ironblood basicly become a god shortly after?

Think Cacame is still an elf the natrul pray of dwarves, I mean Cacame is probably as badass as any legendery warrior even in the dwarven realms but Ironblood is damn near indestructible!

[Neonivek]

Technically Titans are gods. I am sure Cacame could beat one.

[weenog]

Being an elf is part of the badassery of Cacame.  He didn't start from a position of priviledge, he WORKED to attain his status in dwarven culture.  It wouldn't be nearly so impressive if he hadn't started as something any right-thinking dwarf would want to scrape off the bottom of his high boot.

[Bavette]

Yes, that was my point. Ironblood had so much in himself to fuel a legend of a dwarf. Yet Cacame had in him something that fueled not only the legend of an elf (which is ever inferior to that of a dwarf, I agree), but he also fulfilled the role of a king of the dwarves. He came out from the far end of the spectrum! He went from negatives to the godlike proportions of legends much like Ironblood.

The question is: which mountain is taller, the one that rises to the sky from the ground to top. Or the one that has rooted itself all the way down to the magma sea and scraps at the clouds far above? Opinion is opinion after all.

[The13thRonin]

Dude...
Ironblood killed a GAWD!!

PROS of Cacame:

- Declared war on his own species after his family were eaten by elves, something that would probably send Ironblood into a prissy little tantrum spiral.
- Survived a face-full of dragon fire with no injuries.
- Used a war-hammer
- Killed a dragon in one or two blows.
- Was a KING... Of the DWARVES... DWARVES that were at war with his own people...
- Earned the respect of the entire forum despite being an elf.

PROS of Ironblood:

- Killed a possessed dwarf... Something that totally isn't regularly done by untrained dwarves and red-spine injured guards every moment of every day...
- Likes to carry around an artifact cabinet presumably to keep his cave spider silk dress in.
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[slowpokez]

Dude...
Ironblood killed a GAWD!!

PROS of Cacame:

- Declared war on his own species after his family were eaten by elves something that would probably send Ironblood into a prissy little tantrum spiral.
- Survived a face-full of dragon fire with no injuries.
- Used a war-hammer
- Killed a dragon in one or two blows.
- Was a KING... Of the DWARVES... DWARVES that were at war with his own people...
- Earned the respect of the entire forum despite being an elf.

PROS of Ironblood:

- Killed a possessed dwarf... Something that totally isn't regularly done by untrained dwarves and red-spine injured guards every moment of every day...
- Likes to carry around an artifact cabinet presumably to keep his cave spider silk dress in.
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+1

[Sprin]

the cabnit carried his crumpits

Also its PHYSICAL attributes when they fight! By all means what Cacame did was so badass hes my laptops wallpaper! Iam just saying in a fight Ironblood would win.

[Bavette]

the cabnit carried his crumpits

Also its PHYSICAL attributes when they fight! By all means what Cacame did was so badass hes my laptops wallpaper! Iam just saying in a fight Ironblood would win.

Actually, the way combat works atm, Cacame would win because of over-the-top legendary agility tops all other attributes. Maybe when the new patch comes up, Ironblood will hold the upper hand.

[hermes]

Dude...
Ironblood killed a GAWD!!

PROS of Cacame:

- Declared war on his own species after his family were eaten by elves, something that would probably send Ironblood into a prissy little tantrum spiral.
- Survived a face-full of dragon fire with no injuries.
- Used a war-hammer
- Killed a dragon in one or two blows.
- Was a KING... Of the DWARVES... DWARVES that were at war with his own people...
- Earned the respect of the entire forum despite being an elf.

PROS of Ironblood:

- Killed a possessed dwarf... Something that totally isn't regularly done by untrained dwarves and red-spine injured guards every moment of every day...
- Likes to carry around an artifact cabinet presumably to keep his cave spider silk dress in.
-

Well this has convinced me.  Although I feel dirty for saying so, I'd support the elf as champion of bay12.

[Demonic Gophers]

If you leave out most of Ironblood's accomplishments, then naturally his list of pros is going to be a little thin.

[Xantalos]

If you leave out most of Ironblood's accomplishments, then naturally his list of pros is going to be a little thin.

*beat a hydra to death with bare hands
*somehow survived brain injury
*almost literally broke game with ridiculous axedwarf skill
*slaughtered countless skeletal elk

[Darvi]

Are you implying that brains are somehow vital organs for dwarves?

[Rumrusher]

Guys. The real way to prove who's better is in a Minecart/Wheelbarrow Drag race. I'm sure both haven't seen a minecart in their times so it's perfectly fair and balanced.

[Crashmaster]

Has the xp/ level system changed much? I have a dwarf nearing death from old age with over well 40k xp in axedwarf and over 30k xp in shield user. I hope she will be able to one-hit a deity in a hamlet to the north on her next adventure.

[Lich180]

Guys. The real way to prove who's better is in a Minecart/Wheelbarrow Drag race. I'm sure both haven't seen a minecart in their times so it's perfectly fair and balanced.

Both ending with an unexpected crash into a wall, and skulls being fractured and jammed into brains?