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Author Topic: New Study Confirms Chemical Activates Gene That Prevents Disease Due To Aging  (Read 3252 times)

penguinofhonor

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woah adding something to the water supply?

Seems like a possibly bad idea. You can't really control the dose or anything, which could lead to some problems. Also the fact that no-one likes the idea of things being put into the water. Otherwise, this sounds interesting I suppose?

Flourination all over again huh?

I wonder how many people who would argue against resveratrolation don't know fluoridation happens.
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woah adding something to the water supply?

Seems like a possibly bad idea. You can't really control the dose or anything, which could lead to some problems. Also the fact that no-one likes the idea of things being put into the water. Otherwise, this sounds interesting I suppose?
It's all in the name of Science.

Either we make major breakthroughs or kill thousands of people, now that's real science.
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woah adding something to the water supply?

Seems like a possibly bad idea. You can't really control the dose or anything, which could lead to some problems. Also the fact that no-one likes the idea of things being put into the water. Otherwise, this sounds interesting I suppose?
It's all in the name of Science.

Either we make major breakthroughs or kill thousands of people, now that's real science.

On occasion, we manage both.

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They'd need to go through extensive human trials and probably have it as a prescription drug for a long time before doing something like that anyway.
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woah adding something to the water supply?

Seems like a possibly bad idea. You can't really control the dose or anything, which could lead to some problems. Also the fact that no-one likes the idea of things being put into the water. Otherwise, this sounds interesting I suppose?

Flourination all over again huh?
So you're the bastard putting flour in my water! I'm really tired of bathing in pastry dough.
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This... reads like an article that is lying to me. Heavily. About not just its conclusions but it's methodology.

It is a Harvard press release. It's generally safe to assume they are wildly exaggerating, at best.

The only conclusion that one can safely draw from this study is that they have a chemical that encourages activation of a specific gene sequence.

From previous studies, we can draw the conclusion of activation of this gene potentially leading to more mitochondrial activity.

That's literally it.

The likelihood of their being a gene for "prevents disease due to aging" is laughably small, and there's certainly no evidence that the gene they are talking about here does that. It is interesting, though, if not accurate.
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The likelihood of their being a gene for "prevents disease due to aging" is laughably small, and there's certainly no evidence that the gene they are talking about here does that. It is interesting, though, if not accurate.

I'm just taking that "prevents disease due to aging" from the press release.

There are studies for a homologue of SIRT1, Sir2, to have a significant impact on cell lifespan for yeast.
There are also studies for SIRT1-stimulated mice in which have increased lifespans as well and less health complications due to obesity.
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I wonder if they injected it into mice, or fed it to mice?  It would be funny if resveratrol didn't survive the digestion process.
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Oh, that's good. I was planning to replace my body with augmentations in 2025 to prevent me from aging, but this might be more natural.

Wait, this only prevents disease? Oh well...
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And in the near future, people take a handful of drugs each day to stay alive—one for the aging, one for keeping up the brain, a few anti-whatever pills, a half-pill of telomereasease(:P)...
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Reminds me of a Vonnegut short story.
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Oy, slow down there.

The study shows it has positive effects, and not all those the headline makes it out as having, in animal models. Animal models are pretty well known to be unreliable at predicting effects in humans. A somewhat useful tool, but hardly definitive. It's why you hear of many potential wonderdrugs, then they just vanish from any mention. What works in mice doesn't necessarily translate to humans due to vast differences in environments and varying biology.
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Oy, slow down there.

The study shows it has positive effects, and not all those the headline makes it out as having, in animal models. Animal models are pretty well known to be unreliable at predicting effects in humans. A somewhat useful tool, but hardly definitive. It's why you hear of many potential wonderdrugs, then they just vanish from any mention. What works in mice doesn't necessarily translate to humans due to vast differences in environments and varying biology.
Obviously the answer is to splice mouse DNA into ourselves. I for one welcome our immortal rodent-hybrid overlords.
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And then everyone was Gadget.

Think... think I'd be okay with that.
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