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frostshotgg

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Re: Soylent Green Is Real, People!
« Reply #315 on: April 11, 2014, 10:34:32 pm »

I've been thinking. The dude obviously noticed some definite benefits, but I have to wonder how much of it was placebo effect? It's a shame there's not really a way to test it...
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« Reply #316 on: April 11, 2014, 10:48:30 pm »

The benefits are more than just noticed.  He's been keeping track of practically everything about his body that can be measured since he started taking this stuff seriously.  He's had plenty to say about everything from blood work to sleep patterns.
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« Reply #317 on: April 11, 2014, 10:57:55 pm »

Yes, there are changes, but are those due to the drink or believing in the drink? The body can work miracles on itself if it tricks itself sufficiently. Particularly with stuff like emotions and sleep patterns where it's all in your head anyways.
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« Reply #318 on: April 11, 2014, 11:23:11 pm »

Wouldn't he ave to have a preconcieved notion of 'oh, this will improve my sleep patterns' for placebo effects to come in? Else he wouldn't have the notion it might improve in the first place. Besides, he seems reasonably scientific about this.
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« Reply #319 on: April 11, 2014, 11:29:40 pm »

If the placebo effect is responsible for all these benefits, why would you ruin that for us? :<
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Re: Soylent Green Is Real, People!
« Reply #320 on: April 12, 2014, 12:01:52 am »

For science!

But really though, hopefully other folks do some serious testing as well so we can actually see what happens in general public (or more specifically, the general public who are nutty enough to eat/drink Soylent), with whatever consumption patterns.
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« Reply #321 on: April 15, 2014, 03:08:58 pm »

If the placebo effect is responsible for all these benefits, why would you ruin that for us? :<

Ah, but the fun thing about the placebo effect is that it can work even if you know that's all that is going on.
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« Reply #322 on: April 15, 2014, 05:22:35 pm »

If the placebo effect is responsible for all these benefits, why would you ruin that for us? :<

Ah, but the fun thing about the placebo effect is that it can work even if you know that's all that is going on.

So, are you saying we should all take an everything placebo every morning, to get that nice "I feel so much better, I cured everything this morning" feel?
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Re: Soylent Green Is Real, People!
« Reply #323 on: April 15, 2014, 05:25:42 pm »

Ah, the Panacea at work.
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« Reply #324 on: April 15, 2014, 05:28:05 pm »

Hmm, maybe. No idea if that would end up lessening the effect eventually or not, though.
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« Reply #325 on: April 15, 2014, 05:49:06 pm »

Are we currently discussing whether or not people can build up a tolerance to placebos? Is that where this thread has gone now? :P
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« Reply #326 on: April 15, 2014, 08:06:03 pm »

Are we currently discussing whether or not people can build up a tolerance to placebos? Is that where this thread has gone now? :P

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Re: Soylent Green Is Real, People!
« Reply #327 on: May 01, 2014, 12:55:52 pm »

Looks like some people have started getting their pre-orders.

I have to say I'm a little concerned with the initial reaction to it from a "can I actually handle drinking this?" standpoint. But I'm still curious and may pick some up once the initial pre-order fulfillment stuff dies down and I've seen some more opinions on it.
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« Reply #328 on: May 01, 2014, 12:56:47 pm »

Mine arrived last night!
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« Reply #329 on: May 01, 2014, 02:27:59 pm »

Still awaiting mine.  Not a super early backer but at least not a late one.

Will give me time to get blood tests done first though.
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