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hehehillman

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Should I plant pig tail in autumn?
« on: March 14, 2013, 08:57:02 am »

Hi everyone! another question,thx!

In wiki, I find this : Farmers plant up to the last day of the growing season; if, when the seasons change, the previous crop can not grow anymore, all immature plants will be destroyed yielding neither seed nor plant. Therefore, it's recommended not to grow crops on the last season they're able to (for example, pig tails in autumn), to prevent losing seeds.
(http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Farming)

is it true and should it be followed?

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Re: Should I plant pig tail in autumn?
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2013, 10:07:20 am »

Only if you're very low on seeds and have no backlog of harvested plants. In the very first autumn, you might want to switch planting off by late autumn to avoid seed loss ('q'uery the field and hit 'z' for to stop planting). Once you have picked up a bit of momentum, you should have enough seeds and/or ripe plants to handle season change losses. I do it all the time and have never had problems, even in the first year. In the worst case, you can simply buy fresh seeds off the dwarven caravan, which just so happens to come in late autumn...
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Re: Should I plant pig tail in autumn?
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2013, 10:16:46 am »

I might be mistaken but it could also be that the crop won't be lost if the next season nothing is planned to be planted. So if the pig tails are followed by plump helmets in winter, the crops are lost, but if it's left fallow they grow untill harvested
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Re: Should I plant pig tail in autumn?
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2013, 04:59:30 pm »

I might be mistaken but it could also be that the crop won't be lost if the next season nothing is planned to be planted. So if the pig tails are followed by plump helmets in winter, the crops are lost, but if it's left fallow they grow untill harvested
If a crop cannot grow in the next season any currently growing crops of that type will disappear from the fields at the season change, regardless of what is scheduled to be planted (or not planted in the case of fallow fields).

In vanilla you are probably safe planting even in the last season a crop is able to grow, since most crops will grow fast enough you could fit 2-3 whole harvests into a single season.

If you are short on seeds of a particular type, or are playing with a mod that increases growing times, then you may want to consider leaving a proportional amount of time not planting the seeds.
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Re: Should I plant pig tail in autumn?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2013, 08:21:55 am »

i prefer surface plant farming to this, because they don't vanish on season change

basically, i channel down 1z layer into soil, build a green glass roof, and then tunnel into it from my fortress
the glass-roof area still counts as outside, for farming purposes, and is still safe from outside threats
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Re: Should I plant pig tail in autumn?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2013, 08:33:28 am »

I assume the green glass roof is for flavor, since stone works as well

The interesting part for me is that the -underground- crops, underground, where there is little influence by the seasons in theory, have varying growth seasons, but above ground crops, open to sun, wind rain and snow, don't
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Re: Should I plant pig tail in autumn?
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2013, 12:29:06 pm »

I assume the green glass roof is for flavor, since stone works as well

The interesting part for me is that the -underground- crops, underground, where there is little influence by the seasons in theory, have varying growth seasons, but above ground crops, open to sun, wind rain and snow, don't

I'd thought of this before, but I realized "Dwarven Laws of Nature"
Such as "Why is it on the first day of winter, water just suddenly freezes, with no hints of cooling prior? And then at spring, just bam, liquid."
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