Captain FordOf course. My brilliant plan to fish out Toony's role is to not ask him about it.
No, that's stupid.
Yup, stupid.
1. Why wouldn't I want to be on his good side? No seriously. This is a dumb question.
2. Because it kicked ass.
Aye, dumb question, and it did kick ass.
This is why I hate RVS (Or pseudo-RVS, in this case). Everybody gets all uptight when you're questioning them over stupid stuff, when there's really nothing else to question anybody over. You only ever pinged maybe a 2/10 on my Scumdar(TM) with those things, which normally wouldn't merit more than passing attention, but when everyone else is sitting at 0/10 or 1/10, the only thing to do is keep conversation going.
...really. You pick Hapah on the basis of an ability you suspect him to have, and not because he correctly picked out the king?
You've got your logic turned around there. I picked Hapah because he correctly picked out the king, which means he got lucky, or he knows something. I don't believe in luck, not in this game, so that leaves him knowing something. So, he has an inspection, or he's damn good at finding scum. Both are pluses I'd look for in a potential fellow mason.
Sounds to me like you're scum scanning for threats. I can't imagine anyone drawing that conclusion unless they were specifically trying to figure out who had investigative roles.
Sounds to me like I'm evaluating everyone from the perspective of a Recruiting Mason. You know, the premise of the original question that started this line of conversation. The question that you yourself asked me. Of all people, you're the one I shouldn't have to explain this to. So why are you ignoring your own question in order to devise a reason for me to be scum,
Captain Ford?
Toony ManSorry, I thought that would put him at L-2 and didn't think Deathsword would just hammer him 30 minutes later.
Okami's still alive though so it sort of works out.
Both you and Deathsword were, apparently, not thinking. Or you're scum jumping on an easy lynch. Why shouldn't I believe the latter?
That seems like a pretty bad thing!
A very bad thing, but I don't believe in playing this game conservatively.
DeathswordOkami No Rei
Let me guess? You didn't even realize you were hammering with that vote?
I don't believe it.
What is this? Because I can assure you it's not an answer to this:
Okami: if you think Ford is both rolefishing and buddying, why just an FoS?
Answer it
Let me spell it out for you.
When I scumhunt, I work with what I have. I didn't think Captain Ford was scum, he just happened to have dropped statements that were, by some stretch of the imagination, interpretable as scummy. So I started a two-pronged attack. On the one hand, I was getting the Captain to talk, which may or may not yield fruit, and on the other hand I was fishing for reactions from others by pushing hard on minimal evidence. This sets the stage for either a Captain Ford bandwagon as scum jump on my investigation with nothing solid of their own, or an Okami No Rei bandwagon as white knight scum seek to defend him against my unjust assault, tripping over themselves in their eagerness to get an easy lynch.
What this looks like, to those who aren't in on the strategy, is a string of progressively more heated, loosely justified attacks on an individual during RVS, a situation analogous to slowly heating a frog. It's my favored method of starting the game, because it tends to end RVS relatively quickly.
WIFOM
This is a game of information, and more information for everybody is invariably good. If you ask me a theoretical question, as Captain Ford did, I will give the question thorough consideration, and answer it fully based on my current understanding of the situation. If the unknown variables in said situation make the whole exercise look like WiFoM to you, then I say that's a problem with my own inability to distinguish WiFoM from gameplay analysis (a distinction I've never cared for, nor indeed pay any attention to).
Why? Afraid he'll expose your WIFOM for what it is?
My request for Hapah not to confirm or deny my speculation was there to make it explicitly clear that my speculation was not in any way an invitation or a request for him to reveal any information about his role. While I'm sure he has the necessary judgement to be discreet on the matter, I did not want to take chances on even the slightest misinterpretation of my intent. Thus the ham-handed request.
Were you angry at this point because you could no longer use that to drive a lynch on Toony?
I was angry because what I hoped would be an interesting line of conversation was cut short.
Are you claiming Mason Leader here?
Nonsense. Captain Ford just asked me to pretend to be a Recruiting Mason as an RVS question, so I did.
Okami No Rei: I'd still have hammered NQT. NQT spent the majority of the day doing some serious rolefishing. Additionally, the votes on Toaster were for claiming miller, for possibly having a powerful role, and a bandwagon by NQT, and I'm against letting people get away with lynching over trivialities.
Thank you.
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