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The13thRonin

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Trying to Make Giant Magma Spiders... Webs go up in Smoke?
« on: March 08, 2013, 09:42:28 pm »

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[CREATURE:SPIDER_MAGMA_GIANT]
[DESCRIPTION:A large magma dwelling monster with eight legs and sharp, venomous fangs.]
  [NAME:giant magma spider:giant magma spiders:giant magma spider]
[CASTE_NAME:giant magma spider:giant magma spiders:giant magma spider]
[CREATURE_TILE:'S'][COLOR:4:0:0]
[PETVALUE:2500][PET_EXOTIC]
[BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_LAVA]
[UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:0:5]
[NOBREATHE][FIREIMMUNE][MAGMA_VISION]
[NO_SLEEP][NOPAIN][EXTRAVISION][NOSTUN][NOEMOTION][NOFEAR]
[THICKWEB][WEBIMMUNE][AMBUSHPREDATOR][PARALYZEIMMUNE]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SILK:FIREPROOFSILK_TEMPLATE]
[WEBBER:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SILK]
[CAN_DO_INTERACTION:MATERIAL_EMISSION]
[CDI:ADV_NAME:Spray web]
[CDI:USAGE_HINT:ATTACK]
[CDI:BP_REQUIRED:BY_TOKEN:LB]
[CDI:MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SILK:WEB_SPRAY]
[CDI:TARGET:C:LINE_OF_SIGHT]
[CDI:TARGET_RANGE:C:5]
[CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:C:1]
[CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:30]
[LARGE_ROAMING][FREQUENCY:20][DIFFICULTY:3]
[POPULATION_NUMBER:3:4]
[CARNIVORE][NATURAL]
[BUILDINGDESTROYER:1]
[LARGE_PREDATOR]
[SAVAGE]
[GRASSTRAMPLE:10]
[PREFSTRING:mystery]
[NOBONES]
[BODY:SPIDER:2EYES:HEART:GUTS:BRAIN:MOUTH]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CHITIN_MATERIALS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CHITIN_TISSUES]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:EXOSKELETON_TISSUE_LAYERS:CHITIN:FAT:MUSCLE]
[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:HEART:BY_CATEGORY:HEART]
[TL_MAJOR_ARTERIES]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
[TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[HAS_NERVES]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:ICHOR:ICHOR_TEMPLATE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:ICHOR:LIQUID]
[CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
[GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
[PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:LIQUID]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:20000]
[BODY_SIZE:1:0:100000]
[BODY_SIZE:2:0:200000]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[MAXAGE:20:30]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:POISON:CREATURE_EXTRACT_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:frozen giant magma spider venom]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen giant magma spider venom]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:giant magma spider venom]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:giant magma spider venom]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling giant magma spider venom]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling giant magma spider venom]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[ENTERS_BLOOD]
[SYNDROME]
[SYN_NAME:giant magma spider bite]
[SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[SYN_IMMUNE_CREATURE:SPIDER_FOREST:ALL]
[SYN_INJECTED]
[CE_PARALYSIS:SEV:100:PROB:100:RESISTABLE:SIZE_DILUTES:START:5:PEAK:10:END:20]
[ATTACK:STING:BODYPART:BY_CATEGORY:MOUTH]
[ATTACK_SKILL:BITE]
[ATTACK_VERB:bite:bites]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
[SPECIALATTACK_INJECT_EXTRACT:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:POISON:LIQUID:100:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_CANLATCH]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[HOMEOTHERM:10040]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
[BABY:1]
[GENERAL_BABY_NAME:giant magma spider hatchling:giant magma spider hatchlings]
[BABYNAME:giant magma spider hatchling:giant magma spider hatchlings]
[CASTE:FEMALE]
[FEMALE]
[CASTE:MALE]
[MALE]
[SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:CHITIN]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:RED:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:chitin:SINGULAR]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:EYE]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
[SELECT_MATERIAL:ALL]
[MULTIPLY_VALUE:4]
[COLDDAM_POINT:NONE]
[HEATDAM_POINT:NONE]
[IGNITE_POINT:NONE]
[IF_EXISTS_SET_MELTING_POINT:15000]
[IF_EXISTS_SET_BOILING_POINT:20000]
[SELECT_MATERIAL:ICHOR]
[MELTING_POINT:10000]

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material_template_extended

[OBJECT:MATERIAL_TEMPLATE]

[MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:FIREPROOFSILK_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:WHITE]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:fireproof silk]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:fireproof silk]
[STATE_COLOR:LIQUID:WHITE]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:n/a]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:n/a]
[STATE_COLOR:GAS:WHITE]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:n/a]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:n/a]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:7:0:1]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:1]
[SPEC_HEAT:420]
[IGNITE_POINT:NONE]
[MELTING_POINT:25000]
[BOILING_POINT:50000]
[HEATDAM_POINT:NONE]
[COLDDAM_POINT:NONE]
[MAT_FIXED_TEMP:NONE]
[SOLID_DENSITY:500]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:NONE]
[MOLAR_MASS:NONE]
[IMPACT_YIELD:10000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:10000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100000]
[COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:10000]
[COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:10000]
[COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100000]
[TENSILE_YIELD:10000]
[TENSILE_FRACTURE:10000]
[TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100000]
[TORSION_YIELD:10000]
[TORSION_FRACTURE:10000]
[TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100000]
[SHEAR_YIELD:1150000] used spider silk from wikipedia
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:1200000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100000]
[BENDING_YIELD:10000]
[BENDING_FRACTURE:10000]
[BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100000]
[MAX_EDGE:0]
[ABSORPTION:100]
[SILK]
[ITEMS_SOFT]
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Re: Trying to Make Giant Magma Spiders... Webs go up in Smoke?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2013, 09:44:56 pm »

These lines:
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[SELECT_MATERIAL:ALL]
[IF_EXISTS_SET_MELTING_POINT:15000]
[IF_EXISTS_SET_BOILING_POINT:20000]
Lowered its melting and boiling point.

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Re: Trying to Make Giant Magma Spiders... Webs go up in Smoke?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2013, 09:56:14 pm »

These lines:
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[SELECT_MATERIAL:ALL]
[IF_EXISTS_SET_MELTING_POINT:15000]
[IF_EXISTS_SET_BOILING_POINT:20000]
Lowered its melting and boiling point.

Wouldn't lowering its melting and boiling points have the effect of making them more destroyable? They already have HEAT_DAM_POINT: NONE?

The webs don't even get to the stage were they stick. They're just instantly vapourised as they're sprayed.
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Re: Trying to Make Giant Magma Spiders... Webs go up in Smoke?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 09:56:50 pm »

Yes, vapourization is boiling.

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Re: Trying to Make Giant Magma Spiders... Webs go up in Smoke?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2013, 10:14:40 pm »

Yes, vapourization is boiling.

So why would you want to make them even easier to boil?

I'm not following the logic.
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Re: Trying to Make Giant Magma Spiders... Webs go up in Smoke?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2013, 10:18:22 pm »

The lines I quoted made them lower. As in, you did it wrong and made your web have a lower boiling point.

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Re: Trying to Make Giant Magma Spiders... Webs go up in Smoke?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2013, 10:25:11 pm »

The lines I quoted made them lower. As in, you did it wrong and made your web have a lower boiling point.

If the problem is that an object is too meltable the solution is not to make the object even more meltable than it was in the first place.

I think you have misunderstood the problem. The webs need to NOT go up in smoke.
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Re: Trying to Make Giant Magma Spiders... Webs go up in Smoke?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2013, 10:44:44 pm »

If the problem is that an object is too meltable the solution is not to make the object even more meltable than it was in the first place.

I think you have misunderstood the problem. The webs need to NOT go up in smoke.
What he's saying is that you lowered the boiling point, which is why it goes up in smoke. He's not saying that's what you should do, he's saying that's what you did.

If you want it to not go up in smoke, raise the melting and boiling points.
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Re: Trying to Make Giant Magma Spiders... Webs go up in Smoke?
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2013, 10:47:20 pm »

Just give it a good old fixed temp and it should work, if you don't want to deal with boiling points.
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Re: Trying to Make Giant Magma Spiders... Webs go up in Smoke?
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2013, 11:11:06 pm »

The lines I quoted made them lower. As in, you did it wrong and made your web have a lower boiling point.

If the problem is that an object is too meltable the solution is not to make the object even more meltable than it was in the first place.

I think you have misunderstood the problem. The webs need to NOT go up in smoke.

The lines I quoted are from your code. You need to remove them to fix the webs.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2013, 11:13:56 pm by Putnam »
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Re: Trying to Make Giant Magma Spiders... Webs go up in Smoke?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2013, 12:28:02 am »

The lines I quoted made them lower. As in, you did it wrong and made your web have a lower boiling point.

If the problem is that an object is too meltable the solution is not to make the object even more meltable than it was in the first place.

I think you have misunderstood the problem. The webs need to NOT go up in smoke.

The lines I quoted are from your code. You need to remove them to fix the webs.

Oh... Well I removed them and the webs still burn up... Also the spiders now die in magma.
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Re: Trying to Make Giant Magma Spiders... Webs go up in Smoke?
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2013, 12:31:07 am »

You could've also added a new thing that sets their MELTING and BOILING_POINTs to NONE with SELECT_MATERIAL

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Re: Trying to Make Giant Magma Spiders... Webs go up in Smoke?
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2013, 12:34:38 am »

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[IGNITE_POINT:NONE]
   [MELTING_POINT:25000]
   [BOILING_POINT:50000]

I'm not all that good with modding, but wouldn't it be better to either a) set it higher or B) set it to none?
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Re: Trying to Make Giant Magma Spiders... Webs go up in Smoke?
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2013, 12:47:02 am »

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[IGNITE_POINT:NONE]
   [MELTING_POINT:25000]
   [BOILING_POINT:50000]

I'm not all that good with modding, but wouldn't it be better to either a) set it higher or B) set it to none?

I tried NONE already. It didn't work... I'm not sure if the material only takes on the properties after the initial web spray?
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