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[MaximumZero]

A politician involved in corruption? I feel a complete lack of surprise.

FTFY.

[smjjames]

North Korea may be readying a missile test, possibly as early as Friday.

As with anything NK, it pretty much boils down to "Activity spotted!", but yeah, Trump is going to get tested pretty quick. Pretty audacious on NKs part, though it's completely unknown whether they are whacking a honeybee hive, a hornets nest, or a hive of hornets that are supercharged with whatever hormone that insects use which heightens aggression*.

*or maybe demon hornets or hornets crossed with africanized honeybees, or something.

[Sheb]

Will be nice to see how he responds.

[wierd]

Human swine claims that Glorious Leader of BEST KOREA's days are numbered!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/world/asia/north-korea-defector.html

When will the shameless character assassinations stop!?

[Loud Whispers]

Mr. Thae had been the North’s No. 2 diplomat in London until he fled to the South last summer with his family. South Korea has hailed his defection as a sign of growing disillusionment among North Korean elites with the country’s leader, Kim Jong-un. Since December, Mr. Thae has given a series of interviews to share his dire view of today’s North Korea.

Londonistan infected him with freedom
All according to keikaku

[wierd]

Their children were afflicted with... WESTERN DECADENCE!

It must have happened during Christmas!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EALhTc-hE8

[smjjames]

Mattis sends a really strong message to NK.

And I mean REALLY strong. I wonder if that means we'd have to retaliate if they even do a nuke test? Because 'utilize' here could mean simply testing it.

[My Name is Immaterial]

Wow. Yeah, you're not kidding. That is VERY strong.

[IronyOwl]

That doesn't seem strong at all.

"Any attack on the United States, or our allies, will be defeated, and any use of nuclear weapons would be met with a response that would be effective and overwhelming"

The first part is pretty standard for international dickwaving. The second is pretty standard for threats in response to being nuked.

I wonder if that means we'd have to retaliate if they even do a nuke test? Because 'utilize' here could mean simply testing it.

Given the context of the quote and the loose assumption that we're not NK, I wouldn't think so. Directly, at least. Sanctions and loud military posturing is (relatively) cheap.

[Amperzand]

I mean, "You nuke something we care about, we nuke the bajeezless out of you" has basically been standard operating procedure.

[smjjames]

True, though it's usually more subtly implied.

[Sheb]

I mean, "You nuke something we care about, we nuke the bajeezless out of you" has basically been standard operating procedure.

Is it standard US doctrine to use nukes in case of nuclear attacks on one of their allies?

[wierd]

Kinda.  That is one of the cornerstones of the UN membership agreement, and why the US's huge military expenditures have enabled so many european nations to avoid such heavy expenditures themselves. It is expected that if some serious threat attacks one of them, the US and its really big stick will intervene.

That is one of the issues surrounding Trump's threats of leaving the UN, and is kinda the basis for his rationale for doing so. (that those nations need to contribute more meaningfully to their own national defense)

But while I can see how a thread about narcissistic despots, like Glorious Leader of Best Korea might get some love for other narcissistic despots, like Donald Trump, the latter does not really belong here.  Just pointing out that the verbiage of the UN pact treats any attack against a member nation, as if it were an attack against all other member nations, and necessitates those members to strike back accordingly.

[andrea]

Kinda.  That is one of the cornerstones of the UN membership agreement, and why the US's huge military expenditures have enabled so many european nations to avoid such heavy expenditures themselves. It is expected that if some serious threat attacks one of them, the US and its really big stick will intervene.

That is one of the issues surrounding Trump's threats of leaving the UN, and is kinda the basis for his rationale for doing so. (that those nations need to contribute more meaningfully to their own national defense)

But while I can see how a thread about narcissistic despots, like Glorious Leader of Best Korea might get some love for other narcissistic despots, like Donald Trump, the latter does not really belong here.  Just pointing out that the verbiage of the UN pact treats any attack against a member nation, as if it were an attack against all other member nations, and necessitates those members to strike back accordingly.

I believe you mean NATO there, not UN. NAto is the big defensive alliance which is based on US military expense, UN is the huge global  diplomatic organization which has no power to nuke anyone

[wierd]

Probably. I *AM* tired.