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[Loud Whispers]

The moral of the story is use violence as you'll be demonized anyways lol

Btw German vice chancellor is getting pissy because Saudi Arabia made a few cheeki wahhabi mosques in Germany :^)
I think the Germans should stop being islamaphobic and stop picking on Saudi Arabia just because they hate brown people

[SirQuiamus]

The difference is that only one side promoted and used violence.

Bzzzt! Wrong answer. Both sides promoted violence, but only one side got a chance to use it because the cops got in between. Both sides are violent, illiberal idiots with openly seditious ideologies, but only one side is blatantly hypocritical about it---can you guess which one?

I'd like to remind you that half of these torch-carrying "peaceful demonstrators celebrating Finnish independence" want our country to be annexed by Sweden (after they've gassed all the darkies), and the other half support the Russian far-right and their annexation of Finland. "But liberalism has to tolerate even ideologies that expressly undermine liberalism!" Yeah, that worked splendidly in the Weimar republic, let's do just that. Let's tolerate Islamists, Nazis, Anarchists, murderers, rapists, suicide bombers, and absolutely everyone who wants to maim and kill people, because it's just their worldview and everyone is entitled to their opinion, except me.

"I do not agree with your opinion, but I will defend your right to express it, even if it means I'm not allowed to have any opinions of my own in the gas chamber."
  —Not Voltaire, not by a long shot.

[Loud Whispers]

Lol I think they'd be more likely to raze Sweden with their Mongolian ways than want to be annexed by it, Sweden YES

Also why aren't you tolerating islamists, that's not very liberal
And I'm not sure if murder, rape and suicide bombing is an ideology but cool beans I'm sure you could find a way to live so

[Erkki]

The difference is that only one side promoted and used violence.

Bzzzt! Wrong answer. Both sides promoted violence, but only one side got a chance to use it because the cops got in between. Both sides are violent, illiberal idiots with openly seditious ideologies, but only one side is blatantly hypocritical about it---can you guess which one?

I'd like to remind you that half of these torch-carrying "peaceful demonstrators celebrating Finnish independence" want our country to be annexed by Sweden (after they've gassed all the darkies), and the other half support the Russian far-right and their annexation of Finland. "But liberalism has to tolerate even ideologies that expressly undermine liberalism!" Yeah, that worked splendidly in the Weimar republic, let's do just that. Let's tolerate Islamists, Nazis, Anarchists, murderers, rapists, suicide bombers, and absolutely everyone who wants to maim and kill people, because it's just their worldview and everyone is entitled to their opinion, except me.

"I do not agree with your opinion, but I will defend your right to express it, even if it means I'm not allowed to have any opinions of my own in the gas chamber."
  —Not Voltaire, not by a long shot.

You just ignored the fact that one side was in fact violent, while the other was not. Despite of several provenly extreme right wing figures taking part to it(or well, as right wing as one can get within Finland, our extreme right wingers would be in the center or even left in many places). Do you consider violence to be an acceptable means, as a tool of everyday life politics, in getting ones will through?

It was the "leftist" "anarchists" that threw rocks, glass bottles, spray painted stuff, yelled slurs and kept harassing and pushing the police and in the end most of them got themselves arrested, some individuals even shot at, while the "racists" just walked from place A to B, sung a song or two and only allowed the national flag and its colors to be used.

Good intentions or not, both the plan and the execution on the behalf of the anarchists was terrible and that is no way to get any good publicity for their cause, that seems to revolve around violence(which nationalism itself is not).

[SirQuiamus]

Also why aren't you tolerating islamists, that's not very liberal

Au Contraire! I support all violence because violence---c'est just le matter of opinion.

Bombing people is "enrichment," shooting people is "constructive criticism," burning houses is "rational discourse," stabbing people is "cultural dialogue," &c. &c. [E: Wait, wouldn't you rather say that burning houses is constructive criticism, or enrichment if you're the owner? Sounds about right.]

Oui! Je suis un Liberal! Je suis le Last Liberal!

EDIT:

Do you consider violence to be an acceptable means, as a tool of everyday life politics, in getting ones will through?

[dead_serious] No. [/dead_serious]

[scriver]

The difference is that only one side promoted and used violence.

Bzzzt! Wrong answer. Both sides promoted violence, but only one side got a chance to use it because the cops got in between. Both sides are violent, illiberal idiots with openly seditious ideologies, but only one side is blatantly hypocritical about it---can you guess which one?

I see both parts as equally hypocritical. Actually, no, the right wingers are deceitful, insidious, and corruptive, but the "anarchists" are the bigger hypocrites. At least here in Sweden, right wing political violence is much less common than political violence from the left wing.

I'd like to remind you that half of these torch-carrying "peaceful demonstrators celebrating Finnish independence" want our country to be annexed by Sweden (after they've gassed all the darkies), and the other half support the Russian far-right and their annexation of Finland. "But liberalism has to tolerate even ideologies that expressly undermine liberalism!" Yeah, that worked splendidly in the Weimar republic, let's do just that. Let's tolerate Islamists, Nazis, Anarchists, murderers, rapists, suicide bombers, and absolutely everyone who wants to maim and kill people, because it's just their worldview and everyone is entitled to their opinion, except me.

"I do not agree with your opinion, but I will defend your right to express it, even if it means I'm not allowed to have any opinions of my own in the gas chamber."
  —Not Voltaire, not by a long shot.

This is very strange because as I see it, it's people like "anti-fascists" and "anarchists" that will join hands with islamists and conservative immigrants to threaten and hurt people as soon as somebody shouts "racism".

I'd like to remind you that half of these torch-carrying "peaceful demonstrators celebrating Finnish independence" want our country to be annexed by Sweden (after they've gassed all the darkies)

What kind of crappy Finnish nazis would want Finland annexed by Sweden? Were they fenno-swedes?

[Sergarr]

what is with this sudden outburst of verbal violence

is there something our authorities are not telling us about the nordic countries?

[smjjames]

what is with this sudden outburst of verbal violence

is there something our authorities are not telling us about the nordic countries?

Read SATW comic sometime and you'll get a little bit of insight into politics.

Sounds like a Nordic thing anyway.

[scriver]

what is with this sudden outburst of verbal violence

is there something our authorities are not telling us about the nordic countries?

I don't know, I don't know what your authorities are telling you

Read SATW comic sometime and you'll get a little bit of insight into politics.

Sounds like a Nordic thing anyway.

SATW will give you about as much insight into anything as staring a cow up the arse will do. And you won't see nearly as much shit in the cow.

[smjjames]

what is with this sudden outburst of verbal violence

is there something our authorities are not telling us about the nordic countries?

I don't know, I don't know what your authorities are telling you

Read SATW comic sometime and you'll get a little bit of insight into politics.

Sounds like a Nordic thing anyway.

SATW will give you about as much insight into anything as staring a cow up the arse will do. And you won't see nearly as much shit in the cow.

It does sort of give you an idea of the relationships though, in a stretchy way.....

[scriver]

In the same way watching american sitcoms give you an idea about the average american lives his life.

[smjjames]

Okay okay, I get the point......

[penguinofhonor]

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[Dutchling]

everyone knows polandball comics is where its at

[Erkki]

What kind of crappy Finnish nazis would want Finland annexed by Sweden? Were they fenno-swedes?

They do have some ideas about having this Nordic nation in which all Aryans true Nordic people live after brown people have been dealt away with. I'm not sure how widespread that is among the them, though. It's not like the many, tiny right wing factions(many not national socialistic at all) are a big political player any way, so far they have been mostly harmless. They're daydreaming, like the social anarchists, and throw beer cans at the police, spray paint stuff or break windows at best once a year.