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[Vilanat]

Is this not just a function of cinemas not wanting to run the film, scared that there will be some kind of attack on their property (based on threats, real or not...), which is bad of business, and might cause lawsuits? Sony will obviously have to pull the film then because capitalism.

If I were Sony, I would say "fuck you" and release it for free on the internet, just for shits and giggles and to raise a big middle finger to whoever is pulling the strings here.

I think the cinema networks were afraid people will be scared off from going to the cinemas, even if they go watch other movies. if those hackers would have called up to the cinemas and fabricated false bomb threats, then that would have been an even greater financial loss.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

Voluntary cancellations are probably an improvement!

Yeah, being dictated to by another country's dictator about what is and isn't permissible freedom of expression [guaranteed by our own constitution in fact] is a pretty big improvement over the status quo


Much better world to live in now that Sony has capitulated their right to expression in exchange for... not getting attacked by an imaginary group. The precedent has been set, you don't even need to be a credible and real terror group to shut down hollywood. God help us if, I don't know, ISIS threatens to bomb the next movie showing. Why not shut that down, it's a real terror group threatening it. If a made up threat by a blowhard government with no ability to conduct anything can shut down a movie like this, then I guess we may as well hand over the entire publishing department to terrorists so they can vet our choices of media before we have to deal with these cancellations.

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Better safe than sorry, right?

[Itnetlolor]

Voluntary cancellations are probably an improvement!

Yeah, being dictated to by another country's dictator about what is and isn't permissible freedom of expression [guaranteed by our own constitution in fact] is a pretty big improvement over the status quo

Put that way, that is a valid point. In a sense, it's more like a "Not cool, America. Not cool at all." being expressed towards us, and willful cancellation is our apology.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

Put that way, that is a valid point. In a sense, it's more like a "Not cool, America. Not cool at all." being expressed towards us, and willful cancellation is our apology.

They cancelled it because of attack threats, not to save face. Even though there is a 0% chance of any NK national/terror group attacking the US, since it has never happened and they don't have the capability since the 80's to project any type of force.

So what happens if AQ-x or ISIS doesn't like the next movie being produced, the groups with actual ability to conduct these things? Do we shut it all down permanently and let terror groups vet our media? Pretty neat stuff being displayed by Hollywood.

[Parsely]

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[Frumple]

Voluntary cancellations are probably an improvement!

Yeah, being dictated to by another country's dictator about what is and isn't permissible freedom of expression [guaranteed by our own constitution in fact] is a pretty big improvement over the status quo

Hey, it's better than what we've been doing. Few years ago they might have instead decided to shove a glove up the arse of everyone that wanted to see the show and still canceled it. And then invaded some other country to sooth the collective ego and probably just outright abolished the 4th amendment or somethin'. Voluntary cancellation, no military adverturism, no legislative bumfuckery, and people are actually getting a little incensed instead of just rolling over for the Nth time? Pretty big improvement over the last decade and change's status quo.

[Arbinire]

I'll be flat out honest here and say I don't think the closing down/cancellation of this movie has anything at all to do with the "threat of terrorist attacks" or that it's some "publicity stunt".  This isn't about free speech, it isn't about freedom of expression, and it isn't about any sort of ruffled feathers.  The truth of the matter is, these hackers have 100 terabytes of Sony emails and information, including things on actors, producers, directors, and a large number of Hollywood elite.  Sony has released distasteful and offensive movies in the past.  They've even received similar threats without batting an eye.  I'm willing to bet the left part of my reproductive anatomy that there's some dark, seedy things in those emails, enough to get a mutli-billion dollar corporation to fold, and go into full fledged damage control to stem the information.  And I really really doubt it's just some latent racism and badmouthing some actors.  All that has been status quo and known in the business for decades.

Like Corey Feldman has said in numerous interviews, "Hollywood is FULL of paedophiles."  It's Hollywood's "best kept secret." It's been rumored for years that big names in the business like Rob Reiner, David Geffen, Roman Polanski(which was proven to be true), as well as big names across the pond like Jimmy Saville(also now proven to have been a child rapist with something like 200+ cases coming forward after his death) are paedophiles.  The problems with prosecuting them though have been lack of concrete evidence, and a running out of statutes of limitations.  It should be noted these hackers aren't just demanding this movie not be shown, but they're also demanding a very large sum to not release the rest of the emails.  You don't cow-tow to stuff like hacked emails unless there's something seriously damning in them.  We've been dealing with death threats and terrorist threats for controversial movies since at least the 70's.  And as we have seen with that basketball owner, most of them don't really give much a rat's ass if racist comments are leaked either.  We shouldn't be damning these hackers, we should be demanding they release the rest of the emails so we can know exactly what sorts of people we are supporting by buying these movie tickets.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

I find that highly doubtable, considering anonymous-linked hackers would've already found that information already if it were just.. talked about, between executives.


Also;

Dear Sony Hackers: now that u run Hollywood, I'd also like less romantic comedies, fewer Michael Bay movies and no more Transformers.

https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/545341254629093376

[Arbinire]

There is something shady going on here cause when the threats were first made there was no mention at all of The Interview, and those threats didn't come out until after the leaked emails about Pascal's racist comments came to light.  And like I said, 100 terabytes of information seems to also indicate some people had some serious skills to collect that amount of information without being noticed by security systems, or someone was working from within their IT department.  If it's the second option, to me that screams whistle-blower, though the extortion does point more toward random hackers.

[Loud Whispers]

Ah pedowood, I wondered how long it'd take before I saw it on Bay12. It's a compelling theory.

I find that highly doubtable, considering anonymous-linked hackers would've already found that information already if it were just.. talked about, between executives.

Not necessarily, Anons have been scrawling the internet for hollywood pedophiles and they've found accounts and interviews from child actors casually talking about directors exposing themselves but they haven't found any mounds of evidence. Worse still they had to spend a lot of time parsing through what was legitimate, what was bullshit spun up by someone and what was just gossip and rumour. I'm trying to find any of their pastebins or achives but the threads are nonexistent now and were not viewed favourably by the mods. Though I do agree, the chances of execs talking about it in their emails is low, few rich criminals are that stupid.
Honestly just the information of who, what they're paid, who they're paying and customer details are worth an extortionate ransom.

[Arbinire]

whatever it is, it'll be interesting to see what's in the rest of those emails when/if they are leaked

[Bohandas]

The problems with prosecuting them though have been lack of concrete evidence, and a running out of statutes of limitations.

Also the fact that Hollywood types are effectively above the law in general.

[Itnetlolor]

The problems with prosecuting them though have been lack of concrete evidence, and a running out of statutes of limitations.

Also the fact that Hollywood types are effectively above the law in general.

Being part of the [INSERT CONSPIRACY GROUP HERE] certainly has it's perks. You can be as immortal as a GTA playable character.

That is, of course, until you outlive your usefulness. Just ask [DEAD CELEBRITY] here.

[smeeprocket]

I blame Scientology. They are all scientologists now, right?

[Itnetlolor]

I blame Scientology. They are all scientologists now, right?

I think so. Did they ever discover anything new besides manipulating weak-minded people to be their puppets for our entertainment?

If not, then they're an insult to the scientific community, and should change their name into something that suits them better. Ass-End Ostriches seems appropriate. They always bury their heads up themselves.