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Guardian G.I.

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Theoretically, North Korean infantry might have a chance against Abrams tanks if they somehow manage to get their hands on RPG-29 rocket-propelled grenade launchers that can successfully penetrate the composite armour of Western tanks (Iraqi insurgents managed to seriously damage several Abrams tanks and one Challenger with these, and Hezbollah successfully used them against Merkava tanks of the IDF). However, there's no one who can pass them to North Koreans, so bad luck for them.
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Can we bring back war zeppelins? Please? Just so they can blast Wagner all over the battlefield.

And develop infantry drones. Infantry using full-body suits to control robots in the field, a la that little fucking kid in the Lost in Space movie and "Robot"
War Zeppelins began their fall from military grace when incendiary rounds were invented. Filled with Helium, their enemy now would be Radar, which would make literally flying circles around them easy, and that even assuming North Korea is relying solely on WW2 era tech, even that is advanced enough to blow them away.
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Shouldn't it be rather easy to get a tank stuck? Dig a trench, cover it up with something sufficiently strong, and explode the hell out of it when a tank starts rolling over the trench... Or something similar.

Also, big remote-controlledd 'mines', basically just huge amounts of buried explosives?
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Shouldn't it be rather easy to get a tank stuck? Dig a trench, cover it up with something sufficiently strong, and explode the hell out of it when a tank starts rolling over the trench... Or something similar.

Also, big remote-controlledd 'mines', basically just huge amounts of buried explosives?
Actually, they have huge concrete slabs ready to drop on the narrow mountain roads. Just look at these pictures:
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It's actually incredibly dorfy.

As has been mentioned before in this thread, the natural geography of North Korea is mountainous throughout and extremely defensible, in addition to their antiquated but still elaborate bunker and tunnel systems.
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And then, there is the DMZ itself. They've been fortifying it for 50 years.
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Shouldn't it be rather easy to get a tank stuck? Dig a trench, cover it up with something sufficiently strong, and explode the hell out of it when a tank starts rolling over the trench... Or something similar.

Also, big remote-controlledd 'mines', basically just huge amounts of buried explosives?


Yeah, that works, but they require the tank to drive over your prepped ground. Then if it's the ditch, a small delay to unstick it. Explosives work, but it takes a lot of technical skill, and the triggerman has to survive long enough to trip them
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There's also the matter that if you get a tank stuck in a ditch, it's still, you know, a tank. Covered in guns, which are not hindered by being in a ditch.
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Shouldn't it be rather easy to get a tank stuck? Dig a trench, cover it up with something sufficiently strong, and explode the hell out of it when a tank starts rolling over the trench... Or something similar.

Also, big remote-controlledd 'mines', basically just huge amounts of buried explosives?


Yeah, that works, but they require the tank to drive over your prepped ground. Then if it's the ditch, a small delay to unstick it. Explosives work, but it takes a lot of technical skill, and the triggerman has to survive long enough to trip them
x50 or so, depending on what you want to defend. Also, you know, Tanks were first used in World War 1, which was a not known for being short on trenches.
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Yeah, you need a moat, not a trench.
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Tanks are kinda shitty in mountainous countries where they're forced to stick to the roads, as blowing up roads isn't all that hard to do.

Anyhow, I think tanks would be pretty much useless in a clash of two modern armies, because drones would promptly take them out. I think future land wars will be just air and infantry (air replacing artillery).
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You know, drones aren't much better than conventional bombers at blowing up tanks. They can stay up longer, and you don't need a pilot, so they're better to shoot up militants in foreign countries, but apart from that I don't see why they'd change warfare so much.
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I personally don't think armies would be that useful in a clash between modern armies... Seems it has gotten to a point were military upkeep is greater than potential economic gain. Drones only make matters worse.

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Drones are a lot more accurate than bombers, and they're far more resilient to AA. Tanks were already kinda useless if the enemy has air superiority, but with drones you don't even need air superiority because they can slip through defenses.
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Can we bring back war zeppelins? Please? Just so they can blast Wagner all over the battlefield.

And develop infantry drones. Infantry using full-body suits to control robots in the field, a la that little fucking kid in the Lost in Space movie and "Robot"
War Zeppelins began their fall from military grace when incendiary rounds were invented. Filled with Helium, their enemy now would be Radar, which would make literally flying circles around them easy, and that even assuming North Korea is relying solely on WW2 era tech, even that is advanced enough to blow them away.
Well, not really. You have to use a mixture of incendiary and explosives. Can't ignite the gas without mixing it with air first. There were many other problems with airships, mostly staying on course. (Half the damage done by German raids on Britain during WW I was done by a single airship, during a single raid, because for once it managed to hit central London. It's estimated only 10% of the bombs managed to hit anything.) Other problems were the fact that they were very susceptible to Storms (many more have been lost to Storm then to fire) and needed lots of maintenance. On average, airships were only available for 40%-20% of the time.

Besides, while being very large, airships can be hard to detect on radar, if constructed out of correct materials.

Anyway, in modern days they wouldn't be near the battlefield. Airborne radar facilities and perhaps massive cargo transport would be the limits of their deployments. If you somehow detests ships, you can also use them to deploy drones and aircraft.
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