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[miauw62]

Best Korean beach resorts.

[Loud Whispers]

Are we really arguing over what the word "war" means in a thread about current events? Would it change anybody's understanding of actual events in Korea if this discussion were resolved? Or would it just change how you classify those events?

WAR IS FRIENDSHIP
WAR IS LIFE

[Owlbread]

I'm going to try to go on holiday to North Korea pretty soon, I'd love to see the place even though I know it's hell on earth.

[jimboo]

Good luck getting that visa.   

But in Seoul, you can take a tourist bus now right up to the DMZ.  No kidding, it's a popular tourist attraction.  It's not so large you need binoculars to see the other side or anything.  It's actually an interesting place: 50+ years of enforced, unintended wildlife preserve.  Just don't look directly at the mirror.      

[Owlbread]

Good luck getting that visa.   

But in Seoul, you can take a tourist bus now right up to the DMZ.  No kidding, it's a popular tourist attraction.  It's not so large you need binoculars to see the other side or anything.  It's actually an interesting place: 50+ years of enforced, unintended wildlife preserve.  Just don't look directly at the mirror.      

I'd love to do both Koreas, though I'd try the North first in case there's any issues with stamps on my passport.

[Scoops Novel]

Good luck getting that visa.   

But in Seoul, you can take a tourist bus now right up to the DMZ.  No kidding, it's a popular tourist attraction.  It's not so large you need binoculars to see the other side or anything.  It's actually an interesting place: 50+ years of enforced, unintended wildlife preserve.  Just don't look directly at the mirror.      

Thanks for mentioning this.

[jimboo]

I'd love to do both Koreas, though I'd try the North first in case there's any issues with stamps on my passport.

It was a joke, Owl.  But I don’t mean to be presumptuous – are you a Brit? (It’s a great YouTube reference on your Sig.) 

[misko27]

Best Korean beach resorts.

Said this maybe a page or 2 ago.

[Strife26]

As an American citizen, I've never set tread on North Korean, soil, but it'd be a hell of day when I have to.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

As an American citizen, I've never set tread on North Korean, soil, but it'd be a hell of day when I have to.

Might not be as exciting as you think. I wish someone would do a (publicly available, since I'm sure this exists somewhere in US military archives) projection of how long NK could stay in fighting shape before total supply collapse and mass routing. It probably wouldn't be very long.

[Cthulufaic]

As an American citizen, I've never set tread on North Korean, soil, but it'd be a hell of day when I have to.

Might not be as exciting as you think. I wish someone would do a (publicly available, since I'm sure this exists somewhere in US military archives) projection of how long NK could stay in fighting shape before total supply collapse and mass routing. It probably wouldn't be very long.

I give ten, fifteen minutes tops.  Assuming that we do a full-scale invasion of the island, complete with bombing runs, naval bombardment, paratrooper attacks, etc.

[Slayerhero90]

As an American citizen, I've never set tread on North Korean, soil, but it'd be a hell of day when I have to.

Might not be as exciting as you think. I wish someone would do a (publicly available, since I'm sure this exists somewhere in US military archives) projection of how long NK could stay in fighting shape before total supply collapse and mass routing. It probably wouldn't be very long.

I give ten, fifteen minutes tops.  Assuming that we do a full-scale invasion of the island, complete with bombing runs, naval bombardment, paratrooper attacks, etc.

It's... not an island. It's the northern half or so of a peninsula.

[Aseaheru]

And it would still take time. Its lotsa mountains and gets COLD.

[Owlbread]

Might not be as exciting as you think. I wish someone would do a (publicly available, since I'm sure this exists somewhere in US military archives) projection of how long NK could stay in fighting shape before total supply collapse and mass routing. It probably wouldn't be very long.

You've said this before, but what are you basing that on besides the fact that the army is starving, malnourished and poorly equipped? That sure as hell didn't stop guerilla fighters all over the world. I think it'd probably make them even more batshit crazy. This is everything they have been preparing and training for for the last 60 years. Walt Disney crazy, we're talking here.

It was a joke, Owl.  But I don’t mean to be presumptuous – are you a Brit? (It’s a great YouTube reference on your Sig.) 

Blast, I apologise. But yes, I am indeed a Brit. For now, at least. We will probably find it easier to get into the North than an American or... god forbid... a South Korean.

[Aseaheru]

I think they may be a teeny bit past walt- levels.