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[stabbymcstabstab]

Back the whole If North Korea and South Korea are still at war, Didn't the North and South exchange shells when the North shelled a island a few years back?

[Aseaheru]

They exchange shells, insults and tunnels.

[10ebbor10]

IIRC the defenition opf war was more than 1000 death/day for more than 1 year.

[Blargityblarg]

IIRC the defenition opf war was more than 1000 death/day for more than 1 year.

I... what? If we go by that, very little short of the grim darkness of the 41st millennium qualifies as war*.

_{*sort of hyperbole but point stands}

[10ebbor10]

It's averages, and yes, there are quite a lot of armed conflicts.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Anything that could be called warfare stopped before most people on Bay 12 were even born.

If you have a narrow-minded, white, European or American centric view of the world then sure.

What in the hell are you talking about? I sincerely hope you are not completely disregarding the context of my statement and acting as if I meant the entire world with that sentence, and not the situation on the Korean DMZ.

The definition of an armistice is usually: "a temporary cessation of hostilities, by agreement between the belligerents, prior to the negotiation or signing of a peace treaty." No peace treaty has been signed, rather the war has just been paused. It has never actually "ended".

Focusing on peace treaties is just arbitrary legalism. While they may coincide with and cause the end of some wars, if the fighting still ends by other means the war is still over.

[10ebbor10]

IIRC the definition of war was more than 1000 death/day for more than 1 year.

I... what? If we go by that, very little short of the grim darkness of the 41st millennium qualifies as war*.

_{*sort of hyperbole but point stands}

Yup, just as a note, I didn't recall correctly. The definition is more than 1000 deaths/ year.

[RedWarrior0]

Whose definition is that?

The definition of an armistice is usually: "a temporary cessation of hostilities, by agreement between the belligerents, prior to the negotiation or signing of a peace treaty." No peace treaty has been signed, rather the war has just been paused. It has never actually "ended".

Focusing on peace treaties is just arbitrary legalism. While they may coincide with and cause the end of some wars, if the fighting still ends by other means the war is still over.

Silly MSH, don't you know that arbitrary legalism controls the world and our lives are run by footnotes in unrelated legal contracts?

More seriously, I think what's happening is that legally the war isn't over but for all intents and purposes it might as well be.

[Tellemurius]

Whose definition is that?

The definition of an armistice is usually: "a temporary cessation of hostilities, by agreement between the belligerents, prior to the negotiation or signing of a peace treaty." No peace treaty has been signed, rather the war has just been paused. It has never actually "ended".

Focusing on peace treaties is just arbitrary legalism. While they may coincide with and cause the end of some wars, if the fighting still ends by other means the war is still over.

Silly MSH, don't you know that arbitrary legalism controls the world and our lives are run by footnotes in unrelated legal contracts?

More seriously, I think what's happening is that legally the war isn't over but for all intents and purposes it might as well be.

It might as well be but theres more guns pointing at each other sides than Gaza Strip and Israel.

[Aseaheru]

True that.

[DarkWolfXV]

The notion that people have to be fucking dying doesn't hold in the small scale analogy but if two countries have people shooting at eachother and nobody's dying, something weird is going on.

If people are firing at eachother and neither side is dying...
It means they have got...






Good body armor
Yeeeeaaahhh.

[Loud Whispers]

No it means they have mobility. And where was the pun? You've got 99 problems and it's not Kim Jong-Un

[misko27]

No it means they're both really bad shots. Never underestimate the obvious.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

paintball.

[Bauglir]

Are we really arguing over what the word "war" means in a thread about current events? Would it change anybody's understanding of actual events in Korea if this discussion were resolved? Or would it just change how you classify those events?