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[Traejeek]

I figure it's pretty well known that you can't actually create silver armor, but one of my dorfs made an artifact silver breastplate.

Has there been any combat testing on silver? I figure its density might give it an edge, but I'm not entirely sure. (It is also artifact quality.)

[bluephoenix]

Silver, in game and real life are terrible for armor because it is very heavy and soft.
The only thing silver is good for are blunt weapons (in game of course, in real life they would bend like warm butter after the first hit.)
Artifact quality does not really do much protection wise.

[Bavette]

I heard that artifacts have the best combat effectiveness out of epic tiers like candy or steel/iron/bronze artifacts.
I had a bone sword artifact and a goblin skull bone helmet in a fort once. The sword was shit whenever it tried to cut, but the bashing was pretty good, and the helmet was kind of a lucky charm or something; the guy never EVER took a hit to his head in years of constant combat.

[weenog]

I heard that artifacts have the best combat effectiveness out of epic tiers like candy or steel/iron/bronze artifacts.
I had a bone sword artifact and a goblin skull bone helmet in a fort once. The sword was shit whenever it tried to cut, but the bashing was pretty good, and the helmet was kind of a lucky charm or something; the guy never EVER took a hit to his head in years of constant combat.

You're probably thinking of shields.  For blocking purposes, quality is the most important thing, and artifact is a higher quality than even masterwork.  An artifact shield is a blessing, especially if it's of some weird material -- extremely light for low encumbrance and faster movement, or extremely heavy for epic bashing.

[Girlinhat]

An artifact item is identical to a regular item except for two things - it has a higher accuracy, and a higher block rate.  In the case of poor weapons, like a Tin Sword, they're more accurate, but you're still hitting with tin, and it's just not sharp.  For armor, the silver armor may take hits more, but steel is just going to cut through it.

Artifact quality does NOT change the material properties, it just changes the balance and the shape of the item and how well a dwarf uses it.

[Traejeek]

An artifact item is identical to a regular item except for two things - it has a higher accuracy, and a higher block rate.  In the case of poor weapons, like a Tin Sword, they're more accurate, but you're still hitting with tin, and it's just not sharp.  For armor, the silver armor may take hits more, but steel is just going to cut through it.

Artifact quality does NOT change the material properties, it just changes the balance and the shape of the item and how well a dwarf uses it.

I was aware... just unsure of whether silver in and of itself was useful as an armor material.

[i2amroy]

I was aware... just unsure of whether silver in and of itself was useful as an armor material.

It's not. It's very soft, so it won't really block anything, and its very heavy which means it will heavily slow down whoever wears it. Stick it in a display area somewhere and forget about it, or assign it to your captain of the guard so he can terrorize the populace while being blinged out.

[i2amroy]

I was aware... just unsure of whether silver in and of itself was useful as an armor material.

It's not. It's very soft, so it won't really block anything, and its very heavy which means it will heavily slow down whoever wears it. Stick it in a display area somewhere and forget about it, or assign it to your captain of the guard so he can terrorize the populace while being blinged out.

[Splint]

Despite the impracticality, I now have an urge to have a full Fortress Guard unit fueled by bling of war. Thank you thread.

[thegoatgod_pan]

Despite the impracticality, I now have an urge to have a full Fortress Guard unit fueled by bling of war. Thank you thread.

If you put it on your captain of the guard it will be more useful, since if he goes to beat a prisoner, and the prisoner is a legendary, you have more time before his slow ass gets there to do something to prevent a needless death.

[Bavette]

Despite the impracticality, I now have an urge to have a full Fortress Guard unit fueled by bling of war. Thank you thread.

If you put it on your captain of the guard it will be more useful, since if he goes to beat a prisoner, and the prisoner is a legendary, you have more time before his slow ass gets there to do something to prevent a needless death.

Oh Armok, I'm drowning on amusement here. Dwarven Bonus points if you give him a full wardrobe made out of impractical and super-heavy stuff and a weapon that can't do bs, like a training sword.

[Loud Whispers]

Artifact quality does NOT change the material properties, it just changes the balance and the shape of the item and how well a dwarf uses it.

Well it does also affect how close to the material properties it is. Lower quality weapons are not as sharp as their raws dictate for example.

[enizer]

for guard captains i usually assign feather wood crossbows.
i can make him shoot things if i want him to kill(in theory, i have issues with him only melee-ing troglodytes despite carrying several ammo types) and feather wood for bashing, like punishments.. yeah...

[Putnam]

Despite the impracticality, I now have an urge to have a full Fortress Guard unit fueled by bling of war. Thank you thread.

Use platinum instead, it's actually kind of a nice metal :V

Brass, too

[Splint]

Despite the impracticality, I now have an urge to have a full Fortress Guard unit fueled by bling of war. Thank you thread.

Use platinum instead, it's actually kind of a nice metal :V

Brass, too

Platinum is hard to come by. I'll just make their beating sticks out of it. Brass.... Well great, now I wanna make brass battleaxes for no reason.