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« Reply #150 on: March 11, 2013, 02:17:05 am »

I have to say, Julian is a fun character, accessible to the viewing audience (He's a geek who likes virtual-world games! He's socially awkward with a complicated educational background!), without being annoying. He has a great arc. However, he doesn't quite seem to stand up to McCoy or The Doctor.... Hm... didn't he try to figure out a name for himself? Why not something like Edward M. Harris?
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« Reply #151 on: March 11, 2013, 02:27:13 am »

My favorite part about Julian Bashir?

He probably is the doctor with the most retcons.

Then again Deep Space 9 loves to retcon their characters a lot.
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« Reply #152 on: March 11, 2013, 05:02:52 pm »

I have to say, Julian is a fun character, accessible to the viewing audience (He's a geek who likes virtual-world games! He's socially awkward with a complicated educational background!), without being annoying. He has a great arc. However, he doesn't quite seem to stand up to McCoy or The Doctor.... Hm... didn't he try to figure out a name for himself? Why not something like Edward M. Harris?

He did in the last episode of Voyager. It was Joe Here's a quote about that from Harry Kim.

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« Reply #153 on: March 12, 2013, 01:40:13 am »

Admittingly though the doctor didn't come up with that name himself (and has in fact chosen names temporarily for himself but didn't end up using them) he actually named himself after the woman he was going out with's grandfather.
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« Reply #154 on: March 13, 2013, 09:04:29 pm »

I was wondering what Romulan Ale tastes like.  Or Klingon blood wine, or that unknown green liquor Scotty has stashed in engineering.  I personally would go for the Romulan Ale when it comes to fictional interstellar liquor.
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« Reply #155 on: March 13, 2013, 09:46:05 pm »

I was wondering what Romulan Ale tastes like.  Or Klingon blood wine, or that unknown green liquor Scotty has stashed in engineering.  I personally would go for the Romulan Ale when it comes to fictional interstellar liquor.

A lot of those are either uttarly made up or have real life alternatives.

Klingon Blood Wine could be recreated in real life using Turtle Blood.
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« Reply #156 on: March 13, 2013, 09:57:40 pm »

They're made up, really?  I'm glad you're here to tell me these things.  I thought Romulans actually existed. ;)
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« Reply #157 on: March 13, 2013, 10:28:51 pm »

They're made up, really?  I'm glad you're here to tell me these things.  I thought Romulans actually existed. ;)

A LOT of things in Startrek sound made up but are dirrectly stollen from something else.

Bloodwine being one of them.
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« Reply #158 on: March 13, 2013, 10:34:32 pm »

They're made up, really?  I'm glad you're here to tell me these things.  I thought Romulans actually existed. ;)

A LOT of things in Startrek sound made up but are dirrectly stollen from something else.

Bloodwine being one of them.
I don't even...

How do you "directly steal" an obscure type of beverage by using it as an element of a culture in your work of fiction? Did TNG somehow "steal" tea, Earl Grey hot as well? Or the concept of three dimensional chess from Ferdinand Maack's Raumschah?
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« Reply #159 on: March 14, 2013, 08:20:02 am »

unknown green liquor Scotty has stashed in engineering.

Aldebaran whiskey, I believe. And I believe it is the same thing that Scotty and Picard drink in TNG episode 'Relics'.

Why?

'It's green' :P
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« Reply #160 on: March 14, 2013, 12:06:01 pm »

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How do you "directly steal" an obscure type of beverage by using it as an element of a culture in your work of fiction?

Because it is cheap when you see an alien culture and it goes "OOoOooOoOooh We make blood sausage arn't we so alien?" and you can't help but go "Not really".

Heck I think the Klingons have blood pudding.
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« Reply #161 on: March 14, 2013, 04:29:47 pm »

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How do you "directly steal" an obscure type of beverage by using it as an element of a culture in your work of fiction?

Because it is cheap when you see an alien culture and it goes "OOoOooOoOooh We make blood sausage arn't we so alien?" and you can't help but go "Not really".

Heck I think the Klingons have blood pudding.

I honestly don't see what point you're trying to make here. That Star Trek aliens are Not So Different in ways other than being humans with funny forehead ridges and ears? Because, um, duh. That's in line with the underlying themes of much of the franchise. The cultural elements aren't being used to make any given polity seem "alien" (I would posit that they are not being "used" at all, in fact), but to give each a slightly different flavor. Klingons are warlike, have big forehead spikes, have bloody comestibles, and use absurdly silly melee weapons; Vulcans suppress their emotions, have pointy ears, and tend to play the straight man of the Boke and Tsukkomi sequences; and so forth. There's not really anything here to complain about, unless you're somehow complaining about the facts that they aren't all identical, so I am somewhat bemused by your statements. Is this another one of your negativity-for-the-sake-of-negativity posts?  ???
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« Reply #162 on: March 14, 2013, 04:47:05 pm »

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How do you "directly steal" an obscure type of beverage by using it as an element of a culture in your work of fiction?

Because it is cheap when you see an alien culture and it goes "OOoOooOoOooh We make blood sausage arn't we so alien?" and you can't help but go "Not really".

Heck I think the Klingons have blood pudding.

and use absurdly silly melee weapons;


Silly melee weapons? I would LOVE to have a Bat'Leth. Damn sword looks badass.
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« Reply #163 on: March 14, 2013, 04:56:04 pm »

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How do you "directly steal" an obscure type of beverage by using it as an element of a culture in your work of fiction?

Because it is cheap when you see an alien culture and it goes "OOoOooOoOooh We make blood sausage arn't we so alien?" and you can't help but go "Not really".

Heck I think the Klingons have blood pudding.

and use absurdly silly melee weapons;


Silly melee weapons? I would LOVE to have a Bat'Leth. Damn sword looks badass.
They had some of those at the sorta-Renaissance Faire I went to the other week. Try checking at events like those in your area. Or try online.
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« Reply #164 on: March 14, 2013, 08:49:58 pm »

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How do you "directly steal" an obscure type of beverage by using it as an element of a culture in your work of fiction?

Because it is cheap when you see an alien culture and it goes "OOoOooOoOooh We make blood sausage arn't we so alien?" and you can't help but go "Not really".

Heck I think the Klingons have blood pudding.

and use absurdly silly melee weapons;


Silly melee weapons? I would LOVE to have a Bat'Leth. Damn sword looks badass.

Silly in the sense that they'd be utterly impractical, even in an era where your opponent couldn't pull out a pocket-sized directed energy weapon.  :P
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