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[Robosaur]

I want Lilliputians. no. i DEMAND Lilliputians.

[CaptainLambcake]

you should lock the thread before you're made fun of

[Helari]

you should lock the thread before you're made fun of

end yourself

I want Lilliputians. no. i DEMAND Lilliputians.

good idea

[weenog]

Why?  What could this possibly add that wouldn't be lame?

[CrzyMonkeyNinja]

Why?  What could this possibly add that wouldn't be lame?

It could add Liliputians.

[Revanchist]

I've heard Kobolds are small. About 1/3 as large as a human, I think?

How fo you propose to implement that, exactly? A tag that says they can, something hardcoded, an entity_x?

[Robosaur]

actually at the moment I have no idea how it could be added to the game in its current state.

However I STILL DEMAND LILLIPUTIANS!!!

[GreatWyrmGold]

...I think the OP is suggesting some, undefined mechanisms which would allow vermin civilizations to function properly, and an entity be included in vanilla to use those mechanisms.

I'm not sure what they could add to Fortress Mode, but Adventurer Mode could be fun. Heck, size-changing magic would make Lilliputians extra-fun.

All of this needs to wait until size is better-accounted-for, though.

[Robosaur]

This... This almost sounds like you LIKE my suggestion!?

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL GREATWYRMGOLD??

[Gaybarowner]

...I think the OP is suggesting some, undefined mechanisms which would allow vermin civilizations to function properly, and an entity be included in vanilla to use those mechanisms.

I'm not sure what they could add to Fortress Mode, but Adventurer Mode could be fun. Heck, size-changing magic would make Lilliputians extra-fun.

All of this needs to wait until size is better-accounted-for, though.

I once changed the size of dwarves to the size of a sock if that counts

[locustgate]

Why...how would their civilization survive their like 6 inches tall, I mean a cat alone would be= to godzilla rampaging through their cities, an elephant would be= to a mega titan attack, and well a titan attack would wipe out their entire civilization without even realizing it.

War: See above. They could be wiped out by 1 dwarf child. An if you do go to war,well what would be the point you can't use anything you loot from them, OH look I got some tiny clothes that fit on my pinky. An arrow would wipe out half of a siege, and a ballista/catapult well, I shudder to think of.

Gathering resources: How can they cut down trees, I can see them making tiny holes in rock=to mining, how would they farm I mean the grass would be = to trees.

Trade: How would you use anything they trade, I could see them using a helmet/armor as housing, but beyond that what is the incentive to trade.

Travel: Just imagine how long it would take them to get to your fortress to do anything.

Animals: They would be unable to hunt anything without the risk of complete destruction of their civilization so how would they get meat.

[NW_Kohaku]

You people do realize that the vermin tag has nothing to do with the actual size of a creature, and you can just create a [SIZE:1] creature that is otherwise normal, right?

The vermin token is used to make them easier on the CPU to process and to make their movements abstracted and have them generally be less detailed as units than other types of creatures.  (Vermin cannot pathfind, for example.)

Making vermin into civilization creatures wouldn't work at all because civ creatures need to have detail payed attention to what they are doing and how they are moving.

Being small has nothing to do with being vermin - vermin just are small creatures, because vermin coding is applied just to creatures that are considered too small to be worth worrying about their exact movements.

Please try to understand the subject you are talking about before you go making suggestions.

[Bralbaard]

Also, we have ants and bees, those could be considered vermin civilizations...

[sackhead]

in an entity file what would happen if you defined vermi lets say rats instead of dwarves etc

[Revanchist]

Nothing good?