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Author Topic: Totem Mafia 2 - Town Victory  (Read 47453 times)

Leafsnail

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Re: Totem Mafia 2 - Vote Phase 2 - A loss of Majesty
« Reply #255 on: March 15, 2013, 09:21:12 pm »

You couldn't find me because I wasn't there to be found.  That's about it really.
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Re: Totem Mafia 2 - Vote Phase 2 - A loss of Majesty
« Reply #256 on: March 15, 2013, 09:25:00 pm »

I'm not pointing at if UI would lie, if Vector flips scum then that nails UI as a Vig. If Vector flips town, then UI may possibly be scum hiding his VK as a Solifuge-K.
So there's only two possibilities, then? How could you know that?
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Re: Totem Mafia 2 - Vote Phase 2 - A loss of Majesty
« Reply #257 on: March 15, 2013, 09:38:16 pm »

I'm not pointing at if UI would lie, if Vector flips scum then that nails UI as a Vig. If Vector flips town, then UI may possibly be scum hiding his VK as a Solifuge-K.
So there's only two possibilities, then? How could you know that?
That's my inference...
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Re: Totem Mafia 2 - Vote Phase 2 - A loss of Majesty
« Reply #258 on: March 15, 2013, 09:41:56 pm »

So there's only two possibilities, then? How could you know that?
That's my inference...
The first Totem Mafia had an SK. I guess you weren't aware of that?
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Re: Totem Mafia 2 - Vote Phase 2 - A loss of Majesty
« Reply #259 on: March 15, 2013, 10:07:11 pm »

So there's only two possibilities, then? How could you know that?
That's my inference...
The first Totem Mafia had an SK. I guess you weren't aware of that?
No.

Completely slipped my mind there, but it does technically go under 'scum'.

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Re: Totem Mafia 2 - Vote Phase 2 - A loss of Majesty
« Reply #260 on: March 15, 2013, 10:26:41 pm »

So if vector is scum, UI can't be an SK?
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Re: Totem Mafia 2 - Vote Phase 2 - A loss of Majesty
« Reply #261 on: March 15, 2013, 10:42:00 pm »

That's pretty much my thoughts. Vector might be town, but I'm doubtful. (and in the off chance he is, Leaf and DS would both have some explaining to do the next day)

Whatever you think of my alignment, I'll inform you here that I'm a she.


Vector: Just to aid us given the straits you're in. What did you explicitly do?

Exactly what I said.  I redirected Hapah to Deathsword.
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Re: Totem Mafia 2 - Vote Phase 2 - A loss of Majesty
« Reply #262 on: March 15, 2013, 10:45:30 pm »

Unvote btw

So if vector is scum, UI can't be an SK?
...I discarded the idea of an SK due to the opening flavor due to the 'they'. Seeing the second paragraph gives hints to NKs...and I put that out as flavor.

But no, it is possible. I just hadn't considered that at the moment.

That's pretty much my thoughts. Vector might be town, but I'm doubtful. (and in the off chance he is, Leaf and DS would both have some explaining to do the next day)

Whatever you think of my alignment, I'll inform you here that I'm a she.


Vector: Just to aid us given the straits you're in. What did you explicitly do?

Exactly what I said.  I redirected Hapah to Deathsword.
And it landed on Leafsnail - meaning you targeted Leafsnail instead of your intended target. You received no word of this [LS], at all?


Pray tell. What if DS got lynched and appears town. What would you assume then?
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« Reply #263 on: March 15, 2013, 11:01:00 pm »

No, I heard nothing about Leafsnail.

To be honest?  If DS got lynched and turned up town, then my first guess would be that Hapah would be lying scum--but that's pretty out there for Hapah.  This is a game with heavy power roles, so the second, more educated guess would be that there's some sort of interaction I don't understand.  So, I probably would turn to behavioral analysis, not to role interactions.


I'm going to add that there was some talk of my being a miller or whatever.  If I am one, then it isn't mentioned in my PM.
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Re: Totem Mafia 2 - Vote Phase 2 - A loss of Majesty
« Reply #264 on: March 16, 2013, 12:13:27 am »

That's pretty much my thoughts. Vector might be town, but I'm doubtful. (and in the off chance he is, Leaf and DS would both have some explaining to do the next day)
Whatever you think of my alignment, I'll inform you here that I'm a she.
Don't worry, I'll only make that mistake a few hundred more times!

To be honest?  If DS got lynched and turned up town, then my first guess would be that Hapah would be lying scum--but that's pretty out there for Hapah.  This is a game with heavy power roles, so the second, more educated guess would be that there's some sort of interaction I don't understand.  So, I probably would turn to behavioral analysis, not to role interactions.
It's certainly possible, but what are the odds of me catching 2 redirects in the same night? How would that even resolve? I can't second-guess myself every time I get a positive with an inspect or I may as well not have it.

Also, question for you: Why did you choose to redirect me to DS, of all people?
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Re: Totem Mafia 2 - Vote Phase 2 - A loss of Majesty
« Reply #265 on: March 16, 2013, 12:18:40 am »

Yeah, statistically unlikely, but what would you think in my place?  It doesn't have to be multiple redirects, it could be something else... all I'm saying is, I'd be confused.

I redirected you to DS because why not.  You looked sort of scummy, he looked sort of scummy, and the goal should always be to redirect scum to itself.
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Re: Totem Mafia 2 - Vote Phase 2 - A loss of Majesty
« Reply #266 on: March 16, 2013, 01:19:49 am »

DS: Can you vote someone that isn't Vector, and request a votecount?
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Re: Totem Mafia 2 - Vote Phase 2 - A loss of Majesty
« Reply #267 on: March 16, 2013, 07:46:24 am »

DS: Can you vote someone that isn't Vector, and request a votecount?
DS: So what was the main purpose of your claim? To show how dangerous I am in relation to you?

In a separate paragraph, detail how this helps find scum. At all. Either you've just outed yourself to them, or are scum and are trying some kind of strange gambit I cannot understand why.


Yeah, statistically unlikely, but what would you think in my place?  It doesn't have to be multiple redirects, it could be something else... all I'm saying is, I'd be confused.

I redirected you to DS because why not.  You looked sort of scummy, he looked sort of scummy, and the goal should always be to redirect scum to itself.
So now that Dar was eliminated, you picked Hapah because he looked scummy.

Reasons/quotes please. I can understand DS looking scummy...and somewhat claiming @ D1 to purportedly make some kind of point or warning on my vote switching powers - something really impractical, IMO but anyway. Those. I don't see how Hapah looks sort of scummy in the conventional way so...yeah.

(sorry if I'm intruding and if you don't feel well Vector, get well soon!)
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Re: Totem Mafia 2 - Vote Phase 2 - A loss of Majesty
« Reply #268 on: March 16, 2013, 10:43:29 am »

DS: Can you vote someone that isn't Vector, and request a votecount?
If you don't mind, I'll test it on you: Hapah

In a separate paragraph, detail how this helps find scum. At all. Either you've just outed yourself to them, or are scum and are trying some kind of strange gambit I cannot understand why.

I might ask the same to you. How did your claim help with finding scum?


MOD: could we have a votecount?
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Re: Totem Mafia 2 - Vote Phase 2 - A loss of Majesty
« Reply #269 on: March 16, 2013, 10:45:08 am »

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