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[Urist Imiknorris]

If Tiruin was a doctor she would probably have claimed protecting him.

Besides, if you're town, Hapah is the most likely scum anyway.

How do you figure?

Sounds like you're setting up tonight's NK.

Because if Leafsnail is scum the N1 mafiakill is unaccounted for. Also Leafsnail had no reason to claim that Vector targeted him if he was her partner, as if he hadn't, they would have been able to lynch claimed multi-voter Deathsword before losing Vector.

[Captain Ford]

If Tiruin was a doctor she would probably have claimed protecting him.

Why?

Because if Leafsnail is scum the N1 mafiakill is unaccounted for. Also Leafsnail had no reason to claim that Vector targeted him if he was her partner, as if he hadn't, they would have been able to lynch claimed multi-voter Deathsword before losing Vector.

Doubtful. Her claim of redirecting Hapah to Deathsword was shaky at best.

[Leafsnail]

If UI is town or wants to pretend to be town then he shouldn't shoot tonight.  Shooting at 4 players is almost universally a really stupid idea (unless you're scum obviously) because it lets scum win if you miss and you aren't even gaining anything because you could just lynch on the next day with more information.

[Urist Imiknorris]

But Deathsword's basically confirmed non-mafia, and a multi-voter. I'm also confirmed non-mafia, and a killer. If I kill Hapah tonight, then the only way for scum to remain extant is if it's you, in which case you'd have to choose between a stalemate with me, a loss to DS, or a 3p situation where you're the only possible remaining mafia.

So yes, it's almost universally a bad idea. This is the exception.

Because if Leafsnail is scum the N1 mafiakill is unaccounted for. Also Leafsnail had no reason to claim that Vector targeted him if he was her partner, as if he hadn't, they would have been able to lynch claimed multi-voter Deathsword before losing Vector.

Doubtful. Her claim of redirecting Hapah to Deathsword was shaky at best.

It had a non-zero chance of working, which Leafsnail reduced to zero. And again, N1 kill unaccounted for.

[Leafsnail]

Issues with the logic:
1. Deathsword isn't basically confirmed non-mafia.  If CF is mafia and Toaster's killer then DS as the third mafia member is perfectly plausible.  Unless you happen to know there is a third party scum in the game which would make a third mafia member unlikely.
2. In that 3p situation I could get you lynched as a serial killer.

That logic sortof works if CF flips town, but I really doubt he will.  If he flips scum then you should not kill or I'm lynching you the next day as a serial killer.

[Urist Imiknorris]

That logic sortof works if CF flips town, but I really doubt he will.  If he flips scum then you should not kill or I'm lynching you the next day as a serial killer.

Well duh. I'm focusing entirely on contingency plans in case CF isn't scum, as you've probably noticed.

[Urist Imiknorris]

EBWOP: Also, have there been any ten player setups with three mafia?

[Leafsnail]

Almost no-one runs 10 player setups so I can't think of any examples, but the town seems to have so much power that I wouldn't say it's implausible.

[Mephansteras]

The Counting Stones
Captain Ford: Hapah, Leafsnail, Urist Imiknorris
Leafsnail: Captain Ford


  Captain Ford stands up and hurls his bowl to the ground. "Fools, all of you!" he shouts. "You are fortunate that the man within me restrains, for the Hippopotamus demands that I get revenge on all of you!"

  "Calm yourself," says Hapah. "It is this untamed anger that makes you unfit to be chief. Even you must recognize this."

  "But! Gaaaah!! You fools sit here and hide behind Tradition while our tribe withers. Can you not see? If we do not join with these Strangers we are lost!"

  "Enough." speaks up Urist Imiknorris. "Without our traditions, we are already lost. Better to join our ancestors in the Spirit Lands than disgrace them by turning our backs to them."

  "The decision is made, Ford. You will not be chief. Now, please, leave the Spirit Hall." Leafsnail gestures towards the door.

  Silently, Captain Ford stalks out.

  The remaining Elders deliberate for a while longer, and eventually decide that Hapah has shown that he most deserves to be Chief.

  And so a great Feast was held, and all hailed Hapah as the new Chief and hoped that he could turn around the fortunes of the Tribe.



And that's game. The Town has won. Leafsnail, DoomSpeaker, has lost, along with Vector and Captain Ford who were the Scum for this game (if well meaning Scum).

That ended up being a little shorter than I expected, but I hope people had fun anyway.

Scum Chat:   http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/pGmP9DmT8SwW   
Dead Chat:   http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/yZaEAXHfJQn7   

Spoiler: Role PMs (click to show/hide)

Plotting Elders

The two of you are convinced that the old ways are dying out, and that any who cling to them are doomed to die with them. The only hope for the tribe, in your eyes, is to work with these strangers who are invading your lands. Submit, and become part of their Nation, and perhaps your people will survive. But the rest of the Elders are against this idea, and would not stand for it. The only way you’ll be able to do what is necessary is for one of you to become Chief(tess) and force your vision upon the Tribe. To do that, you’ll have to fight dirty. During the Spirit Walk you’ll be able to Attack another player and force them out of the Moot by showing their weakness to the others.

Vector - Your spirit animal is the Hedgehog, and you have benefited greatly from its wisdom over the years. It grants you the following abilities:

Vote Phase - Cute - Once per day you may force another player to change their vote ( You cannot control where it goes, only that it must change from where it is)

Spirit Walk- Ball - You may curl up into a ball and become Immune to Night Kills, but may perform no other actions.


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Captain Ford - Your spirit animal is the Hippopotamus, aggressive and powerful. It grants you the following abilities:

Vote Phase- Aggressive - If you place your vote on a player who has at least Half of the players (rounded up) voting against them, you may choose to Hammer the vote and end the day. You must announce in the thread that you are Hammering when you place your vote. In addition, you must add this disclamer to the post: [MOD NOTE: This Hammer ends the Vote Phase. This post is the last one that will be counted for votes or abilities for this Vote Phase. This disclaimer MUST be posted with the post that declares the Hammer for the Hammer to actually go into effect]

Spirit Walk- Territorial - If you perform no other action, you may Attack anyone who approaches you during the Night Phase


The two of you have also found a way to speak with one another through the Spirit World, even while awake. You can use this to plot in secret.

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Dariush - Your spirit animal is the Tardigrade, tiny bear of the mosses. This Hardy creature has taught you ways to survive even the toughest situation.

Vote Phase - Tenacious - On a Tie you count as 1 vote less, and are not lynched

Spirit Walk - Survivor - You cannot be Night Killed during the spirit walk. However, if an attempt is made against you you lose your vote for the next day as you recover.

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Toaster - Your spirit animal is the Carp. It has guided you for many years, and you have learned much from it.

Vote Phase  - Growth - You have a number of votes = to Vote Phase- 1

Spirit Walk - Gift of Luck - You may grant another player an extra vote for the next Vote Phase. They will not know who gave it to them, but they will know that their voice will count for more in the next vote.

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Hapah - Your spirit animal is the Jackal, ancient creature of magic. It has taught you much, and given you the following abilities.

Passive - Psychopomp - You have access to the Dead Chat, and may speak with the elders who have been ejected from the Moot as well as hear what they say to one another.

Vote/Spirit Walk - Sorcery - You may use each of the following powers once during the Moot. Vote Phase powers may be used as needed. Spirit Walk powers must be chosen for that walk and you may only use one power each walk.

     Vote Phase:  Nullify a player’s vote, Reflect a vote on you back to the voter, Save a player from being lynched (other than yourself)

     Spirit Walk: Learn the Spirit Animal of another player, Learn the Allegiance of another player, Protect another player from harm, Redirect another Player

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Deathsword - Your spirit animal is the Vulture. You have ridden the winds of the Spirit World with it, and learned to use what others have discarded.

         Spirit Walk - Scavenge votes - you gain the vote(s) of anyone lynched during the day.

Vote Phase - Spend scavenged votes (can be 1 at a time or all at once). These votes simply increase how much your vote is worth.


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Urist Imiknorris - Your spirit animal is the giant huntsman spider, fearsome and deadly to its prey. You have learned much from it, and it has granted you the following powers:

Vote Phase - Scare - Once per game you may reveal your Spirit Animal to avoid being Lynched.

   This removes all votes from you for that day, and you cannot be voted again that day.   

   This has no effect on subsequent days, however.

Spirit Walk - Hunt - You may attempt to Night Kill another player.

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Leafsnail - Your spirit animal is the great Whale, a being of patience and wisdom. It has taught you much over the years.

 You are crafting a great song. A song that will, without a doubt, convince everyone that you are worthy of being the next Chief. However, it will take quite a while to compose and you’ll need to take care that you are not ejected from the Moot before you get a chance to sing it. If you reach the 5th Vote Phase, you will sing your song and become Chief. If you are ejected from the Moot, or another player becomes Chief before the 5th Vote Phase, you lose.

The whale grants you the following abilities:

Vote Phase- Massive- Your vote cannot be moved unless you wish it to

Spirit Walk - Dive - You do not go to the Spirit Realms with the others. No, you swim the Shadow Realms under the Spirit Realm and learn hidden things. You see where everyone goes, but not what they do when they get there. You cannot be targeted by Night Actions while you Dive. You may choose not to Dive, if you wish.

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Tiruin - Your spirit animal is the crafty Fox. You have run at its side through the Spirit Lands many times, and learned many things from it. It has given you the following abilities:

Vote Phase - Tricky - You may swap another player’s vote chit during the vote phase to a different player. This swap does not show up until the final vote count, but if they change their vote after the swap it has no effect. You may use this once per Vote Phase.

Spirit Walk - Curious - You may Watch another player to see where they go and what they do that night.

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Solifuge - Your spirit animal is the reclusive but beautiful Quetzal. A Sacred animal that has long drawn respect and awe from others. It has granted you the following abilities:

Vote Phase- Resplendent - Your votes count double

Passive - Sacred - If you are Night Killed, your killer cannot vote during the next Day phase. If you are Lynched, no one who voted for you may vote during the next Day phase.

Spirit Walk actions to follow in the next post.

[Mephansteras]

Spoiler: Spirit Walk 1 (click to show/hide)

Captain Ford  Scum  Hippopotamus        Territorial  Nothing

 You stand at the banks of a great river. A familiar presence glides through the water to be near you, eyes watching you. You shout a greeting, and the hippo in the water bellows out one in return. Together, the two of you patrol the banks of the river looking for intruders. But the time passes peacefully, and when you awake back in the Spirit Hall you find yourself refreshed and ready to resume to debate with the remaining Elders.

--

     

Deathsword  Town  Vulture        Scavenge votes  Gains vote

 You fly through the spirit realm with Vultures winging along beside you. They circle over a glowing spot on the ground. You land, and carefully pick up the Voice of Dariush. It is harsh and red, squirming in your hand. You put it in your mouth, and feel its power added to yours, ready to be used.

 You now have 1 extra vote to use during a Vote Phase.

--

Hapah  Town  Jackal        Learn Vector's Alliegence  Scum

 You sit at the edge of a dark forest, the Jackal seated beside you. You turn, and look into its eyes.

 You wish to pierce the veil, child? Yes, we can do that.

 "Vector," you say, "I do not feel that we can trust her. Who's side is she really on?"

 Very well. Follow me.  The Jackal rises and disappears into the forest.

 You follow, slipping soundlessly through the trees.

 Eventually you find a clearing. It looks...familiar, as if you'd seen it before. Somewhere in the waking world, perhaps?

 Watch. says the Jackal.

 The air shimmers, and you see ghostly images before you.

 Vector, speaking with Strangers. The same Strangers who threaten your tribe. Objects are traded, and a clasping of hands.

 The images fade.

 The Jackal's eyes meet yours. It does not seem that she has any love for the traditions of your people.

 "No", you mutter grimly. "It does not at that. I think it is clear that she is working against the rest of us."

 The Spirit World begins to vanish.

 Until next time, child

--

Leafsnail  Doomspeaker  Whale        Dive  Dives

 You appear, not in the Spirit Realm, but in the Shadow Realms below that. You swim in warm darkness, comfortable and safe. The Song of the Whale fills your mind.

 You can sense the others, though. You hear their footsteps echo through the shadows. And their thoughts as well, those harder to make out.

 Hapah goes near Vector.

 Vector and Tiruin both search for you, but of course you are nowhere to be found.

 Urist Imiknorris seeks out Solifuge.

 The others seem to stay by themselves this walk.

--

Solifuge  Town  Quetzal          Dies

 You sit in a clearing, your mind clear as you meditate upon the discussion so far. Much to think about, later, but for now you simply let your mind absorb everything.

 A crack snaps you back to the present. Something, or someone, is nearby. Cautiously, you rise to your feet.

 A rush of sound behind you. You start to turn, but are too late. A powerful arms grab you, one holding down your left arm while the other wraps around your throat. You try to struggle, but your attacker is too strong. Your vision begins to fade, and eventually goes black.

 You awaken outside the Spirit Hall, a young woman patting your head with a cloth. You have a splitting headache. Wonderful. And it looks like you won't be the next Chief. You'll just have to hope that whoever they choose is actually worthy.

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Tiruin  Town  Fox        Watch Leafsail  Cannot be found

 You are running through a field, the Fox at your side. She barks in laughter, overjoyed to see you again.

 And what shall we do today, sister? She asks.

 "Let us seek out Leafsnail. I am curious to see what he is up to!"

 Fun, fun! she barks, and dashes ahead.

 You travel many places, everywhere the Fox thinks that he might be. Down by a river, up on a hill, through a thicket, and deep into a dark forest. But, in the end, you could not find him. Somehow he has managed to elude even your Fox's senses.

 You awaken back in the Spirit Hall. Refreshed, but no wiser than you were when you left.

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Urist Imiknorris  Town  Giant Huntsman Spider        Kill Solifuge  Kills, loses vote

 You sneak through a forest, seeking out Solifuge. The Spider whispers in your ear, helping you move swiftly and silently towards your prey.

 You find him sitting in the middle of a clearing, back towards you. Overeager, you move ahead before the spider tells you to and you snap a twig beneath your foot.

 Solifuge becomes alert, and you see him start to rise to his feet. [i\No time for stealth, now, attack before he's ready![/i]

 You rush forward and grab hold of him. One arm pinning him while your other goes around his throat and locks him in a choke hold. He struggles, but you're too strong. After a bit, he goes limp and then his form disappears from the spirit realm.

 You grin. The exhilaration of that was amazing!

 Suddenly there is a flash of green light. You shield your eyes as a Resplendent Bird hovers in the air before you, a bright halo of green light around it.

 The Quetzal is a Sacred Bird! it intones And you have dared to attack one of its chosen followers! You are cursed, human. I take your voice from you!

 You are blinded by the light of the Quetzal. For long moments, you cannot see.

 Eventually, your eyesight returns. But you find that you cannot speak!

 Panic rises in you as the Spirit World fades. How can you argue your right to be Chief if you cannot speak??

 Mod Note: You have been Cursed for Attacking a follower of the Quetzal. You may not vote this Vote Phase. Your vote will return the following Vote Phase.

--

Vector  Scum  Hedgehog        Kill Leafsnail  Cannot be found

 You appear on a low hill, under the shade of an Apple tree. Your Hedgehog friend sits next to you, pulling worms out of a fallen apple nearby.

 So, what will you do? it asks, quietly.

 "I must remove Leafsnail. He is a threat, and if we are to survive Ford or I must take up the mantle of leadership. He must be removed."

 Unfortunate it replies But you are undoubtedly correct. First, though, we must find him.

 You seek high and low, through dense thicket and up tall hills, but no sign of Leafsnail can be found anywhere.

 Eventually you feel the pull of your body. It seems you must rely on your voice to get ahead this time.

Spoiler: Spirit Walk 2 (click to show/hide)

Captain Ford    Scum    Hippopotamus                Kill Toaster    Kills

 You appear again on the banks of the river. This time, though, you come not to patrol but to destroy. Toaster is a threat, and if you are to save this tribe you must eliminate any threats.

 Eyes peer out at you from the river. The hippo rises up and bellows at you. Toaster is near! Go up the river!

 You slide into the water and swim effortlessly up river.

 Soon a shape in the water appears. Toaster, gliding along on his back. You sink down and swim under him, launching up and then grabbing hold of him. He struggles, but the Hippo has taught you well. Grab on, and don't let go. You shove him downwards until you reach the bottom. In his struggles he slams his head against a rock, and then goes still. You wait for a few moments, and then watch as his form dissolves into bubbles. He has left the Spirit Realm.

 You return to the Hippo, triumphant, and spend the rest of the Spirit Walk frolicking with it.

--

       

Deathsword    Town    Vulture                Scavenge votes    Gain vote

 You soar above long rolling hills, following the Vultures as the circle and watch. Eventually you find yourselves near a large forest, and the vultures begin to circle.

 You swoop down and land near a large oak tree. There, flashing on the ground, you find the Voice of Vector. It stings a bit when you pick it up, but you know there is power in it. You pop it in your mouth, and feel her voice lend weight to yours.

 You now have 2 extra votes to use.

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Hapah    Town    Jackal                Learn Toaster's Spirit Animal    Carp, Gain Luck

 You arrive in the spirit realm again, this time high on a hill with the Jackal beside you.

 Challenges await you, child. What else do you need to know?

 "I would like to know Toaster's Spirit Animal." you reply.

 Very well. It rises and heads off down the hill. You follow, treading alongside a small creek that eventually leads to a river. There, you follow the Jackal into some bushes.

 Wait, and watch it says.

 And so you do. Eventually you see Toaster swim by, accompanied by a huge Carp.

 Ah, the Carp. A wise being, very powerful.

 

    Vote Phase  - Growth - You have a number of votes = to Vote Phase - 1

    Spirit Walk - Gift of Luck - You may grant another player an extra vote for the next Vote Phase. They will not know who gave it to them, but they will know that their voice will count for more in the next vote.

 

 Come, we should leave before he spots us

 You depart, to spend the rest of the Spirit Walk pondering what you have learned.

 At one point, however, you feel a bit strange. A golden glow surrounds you, and then fades. You feel...lucky. You're certain that your voice will hold just a bit more weight in the discussions tomorrow.

 [Mod Note: Your vote counts Double in the next Vote Phase]

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Leafsnail    Doomspeaker    Whale                Dive   

Once again you Dive down to the Shadow Realms below the Spirit Realm. You swim in warm darkness, comfortable and safe. The Song of the Whale fills your mind.

And, again, you listen to the footsteps and thoughts of the others as they move about above you.

Captain Ford and Hapah both go near Toaster

Tiruin goes near DeathSword

Toaster goes near Hapah

Urist Imiknorris goes near Tiruin

The others seem to stay by themselves this walk.

--

       

Tiruin    Town    Fox                Follow Deathsword    DS Gathers Vector's Voice, Dies

You find yourself deep in a forest, the Fox sitting on a fallen log beside you.

I hope today is more fun than last time, sister.

"Me too." you reply "Shall we go see what Deathsword is up to?"

Yes! she bounds off the log and races through the underbrush.

After winding your way through the forest for a while you come to the edge of the woods where it trails off into rolling hills.

The fox barks. Look there! Off by that big tree.

You see Deathsword off a ways, gathering up a small glowing orb. He places it in his mouth, wincing a bit as he does so.

Ahh breaths the Fox He consumes the Voice of Vector.

That done, the two of you slip off into the woods before he notices you.

As you go deeper into the forest you feel the hairs on the back of your neck rise. Something...something is wrong.

A rustle behind you, and you turn just in time to see a dark shape coming at you. You try to duck backwards but you are clipped on the side of the head. Lights explode in your mind, and then all goes dark.


You awaken outside the Spirit Hall, lying on thick furs before a camp fire. A young woman is pressing a cold cloth to your forehead. You try to sit up, but sharp pain stabs through your eyes and you sink back down. Better to just sit back and relax a bit. You'll recover soon, but it seems your bid to become Chieftess is over.

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Toaster    Town    Carp                Gift Hapah    Gifts, Dies

You swim along a great river, the gigantic Carp swimming along beside you.

You have powers, brother, says the Carp You should use them.

"I was just thinking the same thing, brother Carp. Hapah, I think, is a good choice."

Then I shall lead you to him

You wind your way through the River until you see Hapah sitting on a large rock a bit away. You feel Luck flow through you, and you concentrate on Hapah. A faint golden glow surrounds you for a moment, and then fades. Moments later, Hapah is surrounded by the Glow, which then fades.

You leave him to ponder his new found luck.

Some time later, as you float relaxed on top of the river, you feel a warning from the Carp.

As you turn to see what is the matter a shape appears from below you and grabs you. Powerful arms hold you tight and drag you downwards. You struggle, but the grip is too strong.

The two of you sink down into the darkness. You continue to struggle, but in your panic you move a bit too much. You crack your head against a large rock. Stars dance before your eyes, and then everything goes dark.


You awaken outside the Spirit Hall, lying on thick furs before a camp fire. A young woman is pressing a cold cloth to your forehead. You try to sit up, but sharp pain stabs through your eyes and you sink back down. Better to just sit back and relax a bit. You'll recover soon, but it seems your bid to become Chief is over.

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Urist Imiknorris    Town    Giant Huntsman Spider                Kill Tiruin    Kills

You hunt again. Tiruin, this time. She's meddlesome, and cannot be trusted.

Yes. Find her, and take her down. the Spider's whisper echos in your mind.

Following it's directions you find a nice dark spot in the woods.

She comes this way. Be ready.

You pick up a heavy branch and smirk to yourself. She'll never even know what hit her.

Soon you see her running along, ducking under branches and leaping over fallen logs. She pauses as she draws near, as if she realizes that something is wrong.

Now! Strike before she realizes where you are!

You leap up and swing the branch. She tries to duck out of the way, but you still connect. She staggers backwards and collapses against a tree. She slides down towards the ground, and moments later her form is nothing more than shadows.

Another threat gone. You can only hope that you chose more wisely this time.

[Urist Imiknorris]

That was satisfying.

[Vector]

And that's game. The Town has won. Leafsnail, DoomSpeaker, has lost, along with Vector and Captain Ford who were the Scum for this game (if well meaning Scum).

Well, that's what happens when the Doomspeaker throws the scumteam to the wolves >_>

Oh, well.  Trying to manipulate people from deadchat was both fun and satisfying, if unsuccessful.

[Captain Ford]

Damn, seriously? I was so sure UI was an SK. I never expected another kind of third party. That'll teach me.

I totally should have NKed Hapah over Toaster. With all the power roles that town had, I was already thinking there was a good chance that there was no doctor.

I totally didn't have the foresight to see how much of a bad situation I'd be in day 3 with Toaster and Tiruin dead. A big learning game for me.

[Urist Imiknorris]

I was really hoping I wouldn't have needed that lynchproofing. Just goes to show how terrible I am at being a vig.

Although seeing your response to it in scumchat made it all worthwhile.

[Hapah]

PFP: Hail to the Chief!

How was Leaf supposed to make it to D5 with the scumkill, vigkill, and a PGO? With no docs besides my 1-shot to boot. That's rough.