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[dennislp3]

Bah Calliope appears to be pay to win...it would be alright if everyone can get it...but sorry I cant drop $50 for a tier 3 tank

[Sensei]

Bah Calliope appears to be pay to win...it would be alright if everyone can get it...but sorry I cant drop $50 for a tier 3 tank

$50 for a tier 3 tank

[Naryar]

So, first my Hellcat gets "plane burned down" after 0.1 seconds of fire. Seems legit. Oh and it was one of them new britscrub planes with four hispanos as well.

I don't mind getting torn to shreds by four HEF-I 20mm shots. Hell, HEF-I is the best ammo in the game. But "planed burned down" ? Really.

Then my Buffalo gets exactly the same treatment. You know, the BUFFALO. Who was pretty damn tough last patch. Felt like flying a zero.

DM fix... yeah...

[Sonlirain]

Well at least the tiger is no longer a laugh after they changed the penetration calculations.

I actually penetrated a IS frontally today.
I feel so proud.

[Zrk2]

OH

A TIER II PLANE WITH 4 HISPANOS AT BR 3

Well, it's slow as fuck and can't turn for shit. So there's that.

my Hellcat

britscrub

LEL. American pilots are, on the whole, the scrubbiest of the nations. Brits aren't on Axis levels, admittedly, but they still beat the USSR and USA.

[Ant]

Somehow, I've got this nasty feeling that US tanks are even more deadly now than before. RB mixed ger/rus teams have nothing on US teams, at least on T2 matches I've got after update. Might be them M3GMCs and M10s tho.

[Naryar]

Yeah I have to admit that USA is a nation of lawnmowers. It's sad really.

And I also turnfight in my Hellcat...  but yet again what i am supposed to do in a furball ? try to zoom and get maimed by someone else ? not go into it ? (maybe)

[10ebbor10]

OH

A TIER II PLANE WITH 4 HISPANOS AT BR 3

Well, it's slow as fuck and can't turn for shit. So there's that.

Yeah, I have it.

The armament is deadly, but unreliable (getting the 3 gun upgrades should solve it), the plane is slow, turning is far from optimal and I have a feeling it's very sensitive to coollant leaks.

Okay, the latter isn't really a problem as it takes 2 minutes for the coollant to boil off, and then another 2 before the engine takes damage, but still.

[Sonlirain]

LEL. American pilots are, on the whole, the scrubbiest of the nations. Brits aren't on Axis levels, admittedly, but they still beat the USSR and USA.

I'm still quite sure its the planes.
Being utterly reliant on B'n'Z (turnrate worse than some heavy fighters and bombers) while having a crap climbrate and guns that can't kill anything in one pass unless you are lucky is just not a good mixture.
Especially with a climbrate that leaves you with Spitfires Zeros, Yaks and whatever else flying above you and pretty much F-All to B'n'Z yourself because everyone was climbing as well (and do it better then you).

They are said to be tough and yes they can take a lot of machinegun fire for their size but sadly at tier 2-3 everyone has 20 mm rounds that serve as a great equalizer.
Also germans do the same thing americans do with ther FW's but far better due to superior climbrate better guns (20 mm with mine rounds) and as good speed retention.

There is literally no reason to fly those damn things.

[Naryar]

Actually when you fill your 12.7mm M2's with AP-I or API-T rounds and have enough of them (aka: six) you set things on fire quite well. Also, pilot kills are rather common on deflection shots. And even without deflection shots.

Climbspeed, however... yeah the murricans get the short end of the stick. And climbspeed is essential for BnZ.

They can nearly all get rockets, so you get that at least.

Except the P38, the Buffalo and the Bearcat. But one is "meh" and the two others are giant UFO's.

Though I suppose if you have a painful nation, a few UFO's is good.

Yet again i think i'm gonna like the P47. Currently researching the p51, same, four hispanos at 3 BR... but it's a P51, aka : it's shit in War Thunder. Can't even bnz properly.

Also and b25 is pretty good. Can't wait for them pbj's. Especially the second one, BnZ with TWELVE 50 cals should be deadly.

[TheBronzePickle]

The Americans climb faster than they're credited for as long as you don't angle yourself up towards heaven. They climb best with an angle under 10 degrees (though they can do alright with up to 15 at low altitudes).

The Americans' main way to get above people is the fact that they have a ridiculous ceiling. The Thunderbolt can almost climb into space, given enough time.

The issue with that is, of course, that it takes literally forever to get that high and once you're there you probably have nothing to attack anyway.

The American planes just make better bombers than they do fighters, most of the time. Though I've had some great successes with the Thunderbolt even against maneuverable enemies like Zeroes. American pilots just have to be one step ahead of their targets.

The thing that pisses me off about Americans is that they aren't the fastest divers in the game. They're all bricks, they should drop like them, but the Thunderbolt has trouble outrunning anything in a straight dive unless you push it into the danger zone, and that's only because the enemy has to pull up for fear of breaking their wings off. Sometimes.

[Erkki]

Dont use any "angle" for best rate of climb, but indicated airspeed. AFAIK you cant view the angle in simulation mode, too...

P-51 actually outclimbs Fw 190s except for the D-9.

[TheBronzePickle]

You can. The cockpit has a fully simulated artificial horizon, it's just kind of hard to read.

[Donuts]

"Calliope is perfectly balanced its expensive so not very many people will use it" - Somebody underestimating the deep pockets people have, 2015

[Naryar]

"Calliope is perfectly balanced its expensive so not very many people will use it" - Somebody underestimating the deep pockets people have, 2015

pay2win/10. Honestly the Calliope should just be an event only tank.

I now want to play tanks even less.