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[DarkWolfXV]

Doesnt have to be a bad guy, but the antagonist, or where antagonist is the main focus. I think this would be hard to pull off, though.

[10ebbor10]

When the antagonist is the main focus, isn't he just the protagonist?

[Xantalos]

Watching this.

[DarkWolfXV]

When the antagonist is the main focus, isn't he just the protagonist?

Not totally main focus, i figure it could be, like some part of story is about the protagonist, while some is about the antagonist.
Or would the tables be turned, and antagonist would be protagonist and vice versa?

[Flying Dice]

Are we talking about a setting with a villain protagonist, or a setting with a villain antagonist?

[DarkWolfXV]

Villian antagonist would mean the bad gus win
Villian protagonist would mean the good guys win.
Am i right?

[Il Palazzo]

Try this:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/no_country_for_old_men/

this one as well, depending on the definition of "win", though:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pans_labyrinth/

both are fantastic films worth watching.

I suppose the first Saw counts as well.(I'm ignorant about the sequels)

Another one is "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". I recommend the '78 version.

[Zangi]

Villian antagonist would mean the bad gus win
Villian protagonist would mean the good guys win.
Am i right?

Protagonist would be the main character, the story focuses on this character.  If the protagonist is a villain, it likely means the villain 'wins' at the end.
Antagonist is the opponent of the main character, the story usually does not focus as much, if at all.  If the antagonist is the villain, the villain is generally going to 'lose' at the end.

[RedKing]

Wouldn't you have to spoiler a lot of these?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The Usual Suspects
The Wicker Man

[Il Palazzo]

Wouldn't you have to spoiler a lot of these?

The thread is openly asking for spoilers anyway, so that seems redundant.

edit: borked tags

[DarkWolfXV]

Villian antagonist would mean the bad gus win
Villian protagonist would mean the good guys win.
Am i right?

Protagonist would be the main character, the story focuses on this character.  If the protagonist is a villain, it likely means the villain 'wins' at the end.
Antagonist is the opponent of the main character, the story usually does not focus as much, if at all.  If the antagonist is the villain, the villain is generally going to 'lose' at the end.

I meant a situation in which antagonist wins, doesnt have to be villian.
Also, is there anything like when antagonist knows hes the antagonist? That he knows that what he does is evil and stuff? Usually antagonist thinks that what he does is right.

[Jopax]

I've been toying around with an idea of flipping these. Basically this:
Starts with a destruction of a world and a single ship fleeing it.Cut to Earth where some sort of superhero shows up, not really human, does some helpful stuff and all that, saves our human connection, a girl of sorts (playing on the Twilight note here) who falls in love with the dashing hero with a troubled past. He in turn continues helping the humans super heroey stuff while there's indications that something bad is coming. Eventually he reveals to his now girlfriend of sorts that he is the last of his kind, fleeing from a race of warmongering aliens who destroyed his homeworld and are bent on wiping his species out, turns to the human race for help, they agree.
Big bad shows up, big talky buildup, some wierd things are said by the big bad (our hero translates for the humans in the piece). Some clashing, something to put our girl in danger, build up tension, critical moment of the movie, hero has to save the girl but sacrifice himself or something.
He doesn't, a cold and condescending speech is given by the hero, and it is revealed that it was him in fact who destroyed the planet at the beginning, and that he is the insane sociopath who's going around and wrecking shit while the big bad is some sort of vigilante or official trying to stop his rampage. Unfortunately he fails as the hero kills him and the girl. Afterward he goes back to Earth (this happened on a ship or something) and tells that he stopped the first one, but unfortunately his ship and girl have been lost, and worse yet, there will be more of these and he will need all of humanity to unite behind him if they are to live.

Or something like that, sorry for the maybe derail, had to get that out of my head, been mulling over it way too much.

[RedKing]

Villian antagonist would mean the bad gus win
Villian protagonist would mean the good guys win.
Am i right?

Protagonist would be the main character, the story focuses on this character.  If the protagonist is a villain, it likely means the villain 'wins' at the end.
Antagonist is the opponent of the main character, the story usually does not focus as much, if at all.  If the antagonist is the villain, the villain is generally going to 'lose' at the end.

I meant a situation in which antagonist wins, doesnt have to be villian.
Also, is there anything like when antagonist knows hes the antagonist? That he knows that what he does is evil and stuff? Usually antagonist thinks that what he does is right.

Sure, in (mostly) bad writing where the bad guy is bad because....hey, evil is fun. And it feels good. Admittedly, if handled right it's way more terrifying than a conflicted villain or misguided zealot. The Joker in The Dark Knight fits the trope to a tee. Sure, he dresses it up with some spiels about chaos and doing the world a favor, but deep down you know he's just doing it because he fucking loves it.

But for every Joker there's a hundred Ming the Mercilesses who exist just to cackle and gloat and rub their hands together because it's their job.

[Darvi]

Have a nice weekend eternity!

[Il Palazzo]

Another good film is
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/syriana/
Brainy and heavy-hitting. One of George Clooney's more important works and a serious political statement.
The antagonist, however, is not well-defined(i.e., a state rather than a singular person)

As for books, this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grendel_%28novel%29
should fit the criterion. It's the story of Beowulf with Grendel as the protagonist. So, you know how it ends.

Also, "1984", definitely. The antagonist being the system/state, again. Resistance is futile and all that.

@Jopax:
It kinda reminds me of that TV miniseries V:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_%281983_miniseries%29#Plot_summary
Although the "hero" is an alien race, and the police only arrives in the novel sequel.