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[Nienhaus]

RIP server.

[Vakothu]

Here's hoping Autoreboot kicks in.

Edit: Nope, not looking like it will, at least crashes are a lot less common now.

[scrdest]

Heh, guess I've hit the right time to finish up the Badmin Enabling Project of mine.

[AH]

Server is back.

[SaberToothTiger]

I'm mad.

While I wasn't on Baystation/Uris, I spent half hour to complete what I thought would be amazing Mario suit, and then sneaking into Atmos to steal a fireaxe. I then hid in a disposals chute in the bar, and when someone came in, I jumped out, screamed "IT'S-A-ME, MARIO" and moved in for the kill.

Except I was socked in the gabber by the guy, fell on my ass, the assistant took my axe and decapitated me. All in less than twenty seconds.

I'm not quite sure whether am I mad or amused.

[IcyTea31]

Yeah, IMHO it's a bit annoying how short fights usually end up being in SS13. More often than not, one party immediately gains a decisive advantage over the other and anticlimactically does what they will.

[scrdest]

Yeah, IMHO it's a bit annoying how short fights usually end up being in SS13. More often than not, one party immediately gains a decisive advantage over the other and anticlimactically does what they will.

Mostly because grounding == instawin in a lot of cases. Dropping on the ground means dropping your weapon and being unable to do... anything, really; the only difference between lying on the ground, wide awake, and lying on the ground unconscious is being able to hear and hold conversations.

[Slayerhero90]

Yeah, IMHO it's a bit annoying how short fights usually end up being in SS13. More often than not, one party immediately gains a decisive advantage over the other and anticlimactically does what they will.

Mostly because grounding == instawin in a lot of cases. Dropping on the ground means dropping your weapon and being unable to do... anything, really; the only difference between lying on the ground, wide awake, and lying on the ground unconscious is being able to hear and hold conversations.

This could be fixed if you were allowed to hold stuff while on the ground.

[Aseaheru]

Or atleast roll/crawl around.

[IcyTea31]

Or kick the other guy in the nards to knock 'em down and equalize the situation.

[miauw62]

Maybe removing stun weapons is better if you plan to make them useless.

[Graknorke]

Could it not be separate for stunned and just on the floor? That would fix a lot of issues probably, because at the moment being pushed over has the same effect as being tased.

[miauw62]

If you make pushing somebody over not have them drop their weapons, you are REDUCING counterplay against stun weapons.

[IcyTea31]

My problem is with how anticlimactic fights are, not with stun weapons per se. Ever had a bare-knuckled fisticuff in SS13? That's how a fight shiuld feel in my opinion. The fact that the fighters weaken gradually keeps the adrenaline up. A possible fix might be to make all weapons more inaccurate when used against a prepared (intent not 'help', weapon out, etc.) foe, not necessarily weaker, to account for dodging, parrying, and so on.

[kilakan]

I'd really like to just see the unarmed -push- someone over move removed all together, make someone have to grapple first if they want to drag you to the floor.  Otherwise target the arms/hands to knock someones weapon out of their arms would be better.  That way stunning doesn't need to change, it's just no longer that a simple push is basically a one shot ko.