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Author Topic: Space Station 13: Urist McStation  (Read 2160861 times)

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #16485 on: May 02, 2014, 02:10:09 am »

there's a lot of problems I think with baycode antag selection. My biggest complaint is that it picks way to little of them usually a ratio of 8:1 it seems. Another is the glitches and other quirks with it that the admins have said like picking people even when they are banned from it and even not picking any antags at all. Compaired to tgcode, baycode feels like they used old gooncode and only lowered the number of antags and left the rest as is.

Oh god. I just checked. It's not even 8:1. It's one traitor per TEN PLAYERS. No wonder it's all so slow. Putting a PR to change it to five right now.

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #16486 on: May 02, 2014, 04:09:21 am »

there's a lot of problems I think with baycode antag selection. My biggest complaint is that it picks way to little of them usually a ratio of 8:1 it seems. Another is the glitches and other quirks with it that the admins have said like picking people even when they are banned from it and even not picking any antags at all. Compaired to tgcode, baycode feels like they used old gooncode and only lowered the number of antags and left the rest as is.

Oh god. I just checked. It's not even 8:1. It's one traitor per TEN PLAYERS. No wonder it's all so slow. Putting a PR to change it to five right now.

E: Up. Ready to merge.

Oh god my first guess was 10, but I scaled it back to 8, I guess I was right the first time. You are a saint.

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #16487 on: May 02, 2014, 04:58:06 am »

there's a lot of problems I think with baycode antag selection. My biggest complaint is that it picks way to little of them usually a ratio of 8:1 it seems. Another is the glitches and other quirks with it that the admins have said like picking people even when they are banned from it and even not picking any antags at all. Compaired to tgcode, baycode feels like they used old gooncode and only lowered the number of antags and left the rest as is.

Oh god. I just checked. It's not even 8:1. It's one traitor per TEN PLAYERS. No wonder it's all so slow. Putting a PR to change it to five right now.

E: Up. Ready to merge.

Oh god my first guess was 10, but I scaled it back to 8, I guess I was right the first time. You are a saint.

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Did you read the PR? Because that is the exact wording of the description.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #16488 on: May 02, 2014, 05:22:56 am »

The AI needs other ways of killing the entire crew so that it's not just plasmafires.
Jesus, must suck to be born with zero creativity.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #16489 on: May 02, 2014, 09:59:48 am »

I apologize to Frost Titan for calling him or her names and other rudenesses last night. I'm sorry.

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #16490 on: May 02, 2014, 11:12:14 am »

The AI needs other ways of killing the entire crew so that it's not just plasmafires.
Jesus, must suck to be born with zero creativity.
Perhaps I should add the following:
efficient
applicable in most circumstances

I want the AI to fill the air with something like mindbreaker instead of plasma and pick their targets off while everyone is hallucinating.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #16491 on: May 02, 2014, 11:21:11 am »

Malf AI gets more fun goodies, however it doesn't come up enough to be... Well, Common :P

Plus you don't have to worry about other people antagonizing because by the point the AI is killing people, everyone'll storm the AI chambers or call the shuttle.

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #16492 on: May 02, 2014, 12:19:34 pm »

How?

Think 2d Flatbush from Futurama but not quite. I'll have to make a mockup sometime. Not at my main computer until next week. I don't have any graph paper now either. It could be a weird away mission where everyone has to set intent to yellow/red so no squeezing past anyone.

Quick notes:
Side on view
3 tile tall work areas
long horizontal departments
Maintenance strips between 'decks'
Computers/consoles embedded in bottom walls, walls 2 tiles thick except where consoles sit in gaps
All lights in'ceiling' top wall

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #16493 on: May 02, 2014, 12:25:45 pm »

The AI needs other ways of killing the entire crew so that it's not just plasmafires.
Jesus, must suck to be born with zero creativity.
Perhaps I should add the following:
efficient
applicable in most circumstances

I want the AI to fill the air with something like mindbreaker instead of plasma and pick their targets off while everyone is hallucinating.

Mindbreaker kind of sucks as a hallucinogen, because it:

a) Completely and utterly fucks you over for the rest of forever;
b) Is causing fainting, often absurdly frequent, and because of Baymed, potentially lethal overdoses (I actually died of Mindbreaker overdose after a certain someone kidnapped me and stuffed me full of it as a thanks for not killing him when I had a chance);


Also, you cannot spread Mindbreaker like you would Plasma, because it's a chemical and adding a new gas is a thing you Do Not Do with Atmos, unless you love lag dearly.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #16494 on: May 02, 2014, 12:26:52 pm »

Actually you can edit the settings for Plasma with ZAS and make it hallucinogenic and hardly lethal at all.
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« Reply #16495 on: May 02, 2014, 12:33:04 pm »

Actually you can edit the settings for Plasma with ZAS and make it hallucinogenic and hardly lethal at all.

Wow, you're totally right. They specifically included functions for hallucinogenic plasma, and modifications to the toxin damage inflicted isn't too hard either. Plus, they've included options for plasma burning on contact and being able to contaminate clothing. It's another thing entirely if those options work or not, but they're there.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #16496 on: May 02, 2014, 12:35:26 pm »

Actually you can edit the settings for Plasma with ZAS and make it hallucinogenic and hardly lethal at all.

But if it's non-toxic and flammable, then it WILL end in a massive plasma fire sooner or later because some derp will forget not to smoke, and if it isn't, it's not really Plasma anymore.

Tangentially, it's not called Plasma anymore. Because, uh. Reasons, I guess?
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #16497 on: May 02, 2014, 12:36:29 pm »

Sawu made a chemgas prototype for LINDA.
It was p cool.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #16498 on: May 02, 2014, 12:41:14 pm »

Excessive CO2 causes blackouts, IIRC. The only snag is that you need to modify the scrubbers to prevent them from clearing it.

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #16499 on: May 02, 2014, 12:43:08 pm »

Laughing gas is my favorite.
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