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[Glloyd]

I feel like a lot of the stuff in Baycode is just needless complication that just bogs down the fun of the game.

Concur'd

In particular I think we could do away with the character skill thing and the way how atmos starts up messed.

The character skill thing isn't required on our server, and when I port the map, the atmospherics department won't be messed up anymore.

EDIT: You have a screwdriver on your extinguisher.

EDIT 2: Pics from the alien round last night!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

EDIT 3: That rev round was amazing.

[Darvi]

False, I have an extinguisher under my screwdriver. Some more popped up later too, it was madness.

[KingofstarrySkies]

I feel like a lot of the stuff in Baycode is just needless complication that just bogs down the fun of the game.

Concur'd

In particular I think we could do away with the character skill thing and the way how atmos starts up messed.

The character skill thing isn't required on our server, and when I port the map, the atmospherics department won't be messed up anymore.

EDIT: You have a screwdriver on your extinguisher.

EDIT 2: Pics from the alien round last night!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

EDIT 3: That rev round was amazing.

IT'S SO HARD BEING AN ERT LEADER AT A TIME LIKE THAT
SO
FUKKEN
HARD

[scrdest]

I feel like a lot of the stuff in Baycode is just needless complication that just bogs down the fun of the game.

Concur'd

In particular I think we could do away with the character skill thing and the way how atmos starts up messed.

Character skill has about as much impact on the gameplay as character description. Which it is, in fact.

[Darvi]

Character skill is counter-productive even, since it kind of forces you into certain jobs if you want to play accordingly.

[Carnwennan]

most on B12 proper just swap skills around on their characters when they want to try out different roles, they really don't matter at all.

[Darvi]

Well this round was short and eventful.

The captain, Mono, decides to set up the engine and gets himself killed. In the meanwhile I look for him since he didn't have his sensors up and comment about the shoddy job the last shift did with cleaning up in the engine.

Later, we get alarms about the engine, so I rush there to get it ejected. Literally seconds before I manage to break through the glass, the engine explodes and doppelgangers of me appear. Said copies proceed to punch me, so I rush to my office to get the gun in my locker. I shoot the nearest copy, somehow miss, and kill Ian in the process.

The RD claims that there were no doppelgangers, but since he attempted to leave the shuttle mid-transit he clearly wasn't the most stable of people and was not to be believed.

[Slayerhero90]

There's something oddly fun about a round calm enough for a shift-change to happen.

Like, on one of the two today, I apprenticed the Unathi named Nokolai on matters of cooking. Not much else happened, besides a virus that would have been bad if it weren't cured so fast.

On the other, I had a botanist assisting me (Ruby Mary) and as such I got to try a bunch of recipes I haven't gotten to before, as well as understand better the process of serving people food and drink. All that happened that one was Flickenger breaking Ruby's arm and then walking himself to jail on a shift with no security.

[Darvi]

So what was me dying on clownsteroid, chopped liver?

[scrdest]

There's something oddly fun about a round calm enough for a shift-change to happen.

Like, on one of the two today, I apprenticed the Unathi named Nokolai on matters of cooking. Not much else happened, besides a virus that would have been bad if it weren't cured so fast.

On the other, I had a botanist assisting me (Ruby Mary) and as such I got to try a bunch of recipes I haven't gotten to before, as well as understand better the process of serving people food and drink. All that happened that one was Flickenger breaking Ruby's arm and then walking himself to jail on a shift with no security.

OH GOD, WE ARE TURNING INTO BS12 ( )

[Corai]

There's something oddly fun about a round calm enough for a shift-change to happen.

Like, on one of the two today, I apprenticed the Unathi named Nokolai on matters of cooking. Not much else happened, besides a virus that would have been bad if it weren't cured so fast.

On the other, I had a botanist assisting me (Ruby Mary) and as such I got to try a bunch of recipes I haven't gotten to before, as well as understand better the process of serving people food and drink. All that happened that one was Flickenger breaking Ruby's arm and then walking himself to jail on a shift with no security.

OH GOD, WE ARE TURNING INTO BS12 ( )

my plan

it has worked

[Darvi]

SoloStation 13, whoooo!

[Iceblaster]

There's something oddly fun about a round calm enough for a shift-change to happen.

Like, on one of the two today, I apprenticed the Unathi named Nokolai on matters of cooking. Not much else happened, besides a virus that would have been bad if it weren't cured so fast.

On the other, I had a botanist assisting me (Ruby Mary) and as such I got to try a bunch of recipes I haven't gotten to before, as well as understand better the process of serving people food and drink. All that happened that one was Flickenger breaking Ruby's arm and then walking himself to jail on a shift with no security.

Was that the round where I, dramatically, said catch me before resting and logging off?

[miauw62]

Haven't been on this thread for a bit so this is bringing up an old topic (AI harm-Asimov), but I just wanted to try and justify some aspects. I'll put it in spoilers so people who don't care don't have to look at it.

Spoiler: Can AI's harm people? (click to show/hide)

All I saw was attempted murder, an evil cult and a dead captain.

Get suffocated, evil person. :u

Unless you were non-asimov.... cult is still people

But if you read Asimov's "I Robot" you will see that robots can 'break' the first law in order to save more lives. The robots with Asimov's laws are able to allow the harm of or harm a human, if it prevents or might prevent the harming of more humans. Based on that, even asimov AI's can still harm or even kill traitors, syndicates, cultists, wizards and death squads if it would save more human lives in the end.

Actually, In I Robot it is explicitly stated that robots can cause a small amount of harm to humans to prevent a greater amount of harm. A robot could ram into a human, maybe breaking a few ribs, to prevent that human from being crushed by a rock. Killing humans, however, is not a small amount of harm and thus unacceptable.

In the story "Little Lost Robot" while they are trying to find one of the NS-2 "Nestor" robots that has hidden itself, they carry out a test. The test involves dropping a heavy stone onto a human and killing them (the robots don't know but the stone is rigged to stop). The room is filled radiation and the robots are told that, they will be unable to save the person and, should they try, will only destroy themselves which might prevent them from saving more humans in the future. When the rock is dropped, all the robots stay still (except the NS-2 as he could sense the radiation was harmless) even though they all (except the NS-2) had newtons 3 laws programmed into them without any alterations.
Based on that, an asimovian AI should be allowed to let a human die, or even kill them, if it might save the lives of future humans.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

This was in a situation where the robots were influenced by the malfunctioning Nestor, who convinced them that there was no point in trying to save a human if they would be destroyed before they could reach said human. This also ONLY demonstrates the second part of law 1, since they are only letting the human be harmed, not directly harming the human.

[Erils]

Haven't been on this thread for a bit so this is bringing up an old topic (AI harm-Asimov), but I just wanted to try and justify some aspects. I'll put it in spoilers so people who don't care don't have to look at it.

Spoiler: Can AI's harm people? (click to show/hide)

All I saw was attempted murder, an evil cult and a dead captain.

Get suffocated, evil person. :u

Unless you were non-asimov.... cult is still people

But if you read Asimov's "I Robot" you will see that robots can 'break' the first law in order to save more lives. The robots with Asimov's laws are able to allow the harm of or harm a human, if it prevents or might prevent the harming of more humans. Based on that, even asimov AI's can still harm or even kill traitors, syndicates, cultists, wizards and death squads if it would save more human lives in the end.

Actually, In I Robot it is explicitly stated that robots can cause a small amount of harm to humans to prevent a greater amount of harm. A robot could ram into a human, maybe breaking a few ribs, to prevent that human from being crushed by a rock. Killing humans, however, is not a small amount of harm and thus unacceptable.

In the story "Little Lost Robot" while they are trying to find one of the NS-2 "Nestor" robots that has hidden itself, they carry out a test. The test involves dropping a heavy stone onto a human and killing them (the robots don't know but the stone is rigged to stop). The room is filled radiation and the robots are told that, they will be unable to save the person and, should they try, will only destroy themselves which might prevent them from saving more humans in the future. When the rock is dropped, all the robots stay still (except the NS-2 as he could sense the radiation was harmless) even though they all (except the NS-2) had newtons 3 laws programmed into them without any alterations.
Based on that, an asimovian AI should be allowed to let a human die, or even kill them, if it might save the lives of future humans.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

This was in a situation where the robots were influenced by the malfunctioning Nestor, who convinced them that there was no point in trying to save a human if they would be destroyed before they could reach said human. This also ONLY demonstrates the second part of law 1, since they are only letting the human be harmed, not directly harming the human.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The NS-2 Nestor unit wasn't malfunctioning, he was just following the second law and his purposely weakened first law. I'm also sure that Dr. Calvin, not Nestor, told the robots they would be destroyed if they tried to save her, and would prevent themselves from saving future people. Also, even though they only broke the second part of the first law, the implications are that they could break the first part as well in a similar circumstance. Breaking the second part should allow an AI to not open a door for a traitor or normal person that is suffocating, if they can save more people by opening other doors. Breaking the first part should allow an AI or robot should be able to kill a traitor who is about to blow up the medbay (with people inside) if it is the only way to save the numerous people inside the medbay.