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[Tsuchigumo550]

I'm not saying that you were explicitly wrong, I guess.
I don't think a lot of people are as strict, however. I've had contraband, broke into a secure area, then evaded arrest multiple times and only got 10mins. A further attempt to escape got me another sentence and a warning from the arresting officer that I'd be in deep shit if I tried to break free again, then calmly was escorted out.

Though, there was that one time (on a different server) one guy left me in the sec hallway with a portable flasher+handcuffs after stealing my shotgun (i was barkeep) because I punched him once, which escalated to police brutality where I tazed him. I wasn't actively out to KILL him, but I wanted my shit back. Didn't happen. Glad that never happened on THIS server though.

TL;DR: That might have been a little to strict, but it wasn't the most dickish thing that's ever happened.

[BigD145]

We seriously need a time delay on who gets to be silicons and Heads. I am tired of borgs who simply refuse to follow direct orders, and wacky antics guy (I'm talking to you Kukyus) as HoS and Captain and AI. Seriously, if you can't at least attempt to RolePlay the Asimov laws, you shouldn't be a silicon. I undrstand different interpretations and all, but at least TRY.

Adminhelp and let's get some old fashioned job bans going.

[Ozarck]

We seriously need a time delay on who gets to be silicons and Heads. I am tired of borgs who simply refuse to follow direct orders, and wacky antics guy (I'm talking to you Kukyus) as HoS and Captain and AI. Seriously, if you can't at least attempt to RolePlay the Asimov laws, you shouldn't be a silicon. I undrstand different interpretations and all, but at least TRY.

A time delay won't help with that. People who don't RP in a RP game won't start to do it just because it's been a few weeks since they first played.

The time delay also gives US time to get to know a player. At which point we know their style and whether it is learningpains, stupidity, or rudeness. Also, if the person has played a while, we have built something of a relationship, and they are more likely to listen to suggestions. If at taht time they are still asses, jobbans have greater justification.

[Bdthemag]

We do want to implement a time delay for important jobs, however Glloyd is trying to find out how to do it in a way that doesn't make it so regulars who've been playing on the server for awhile don't have to play for a week straight just to play the more important jobs.

[Cheedows]

Wait, if this gets implemented no one can play head roles until a week has passed? Also, is this a week of non-stop playing, or is it just a time thing that counts down?

[Aseaheru]

Oh jeaze, quick, check out the death commando names. They are wonderous.

Spoiler: Examples (click to show/hide)

Noam Bombsky
Al "Otta" Gore
Gibbs McLargehuge
Evil Martin Luther King
Evil Bob Marley
Duke Killington
AMERICA
Toolboxl Rose
Zombie Gandhi
A whole bunch of spiders in a SWAT suit
THAT DAMN FAGGOT TRAITOR GEORGE MELONS

[Ozarck]

Those are pretty good. Man, I wanna be a whole lot of spiders in a SWAT suit now.

[BigD145]

Those are pretty good. Man, I wanna be a whole lot of spiders in a SWAT suit now.

Just be a changeling. Then you will be.
/coughs up spiderlings

[Flying Dice]

I'm partial to Evil Bob Marley. How would that even work? o.0

Then dont blame me, blame the times.

Spoiler: Somewhat belated (click to show/hide)

Dude, seriously? A big part of playing Sec (or a nosy Captain or HoP who like to pretend that they're Sec) is interpreting the law. You don't have to always impose the maximum punishment dictated by space law, and in the case of minor crimes you almost never should. It's your job to investigate, pay attention, and make a reasoned decision based on the crime, the circumstances of the crime, and what's happening on-station. Or if the perp is an obnoxious dick go out of your way to make their life hell.

That aside, I don't think that there's a specific mention of it, but B&E and Trespass really shouldn't be counted together for the same crime, similar to Assault and Assault with a Deadly Weapon. They're the same sort of crime, with a very clear distinction between the two. Between B&E, contraband, and possession of a weapon, that's a maximum by-the-book sentence of 11 minutes if the weapon was a gun/baton/etc. and the place they broke in to was Sec/Bridge/Engine room/Atmos/Toxins, or a maximum of 5 minutes if the weapon was just dangerous and not restricted and the place wasn't one of the above. You never count an offense more than once if it occurred as part of the same crime, and you never count duplicate charges with varying levels of severity.

Ignoring all of that... Maybe it's just me, but I would never give someone 5 minutes for having a flash when they don't have access to them (technically possession of a restricted weapon), or brigging them for breaking a random window, doodling on the floor, or breaking into a storage room for a multitool or something. If it's habitual and they keep getting caught, sure. If they're stealing something important (like surgical tools), yeah. But automatically giving people time for minor crimes just pisses everyone off for no good reason. Try warning them. Try asking them what they're doing/what they need. It's about following the spirit of the law as much as the letter, especially since Space Law is a long way away from a carefully formulated code of law.

Personally, if I arrest someone and find contraband when I search them, I just confiscate it without adding additional time, unless it was really serious stuff (bombs, the nuke disc, a backpack full of guns, etc.). If I come across someone breaking into someplace that isn't totally absurd for them to be in, and they offer a good explanation, I'll help them get what they need and let them off with a warning. :|

[Leonon]

We do want to implement a time delay for important jobs, however Glloyd is trying to find out how to do it in a way that doesn't make it so regulars who've been playing on the server for awhile don't have to play for a week straight just to play the more important jobs.

I think most of the problems with the minimum time requirements should be solvable with a whitelist that allows certain users access to whatever job they want and a blacklist that prevents certain users from having certain jobs.

[Flying Dice]

We do want to implement a time delay for important jobs, however Glloyd is trying to find out how to do it in a way that doesn't make it so regulars who've been playing on the server for awhile don't have to play for a week straight just to play the more important jobs.

I think most of the problems with the minimum time requirements should be solvable with a whitelist that allows certain users access to whatever job they want and a blacklist that prevents certain users from having certain jobs.

That sounds sensible enough.

[BigD145]

Ein has gone from a dog in a pAI to a dog with mobility. Also this happened.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Air smells funny.

[Bdthemag]

We do want to implement a time delay for important jobs, however Glloyd is trying to find out how to do it in a way that doesn't make it so regulars who've been playing on the server for awhile don't have to play for a week straight just to play the more important jobs.

I think most of the problems with the minimum time requirements should be solvable with a whitelist that allows certain users access to whatever job they want and a blacklist that prevents certain users from having certain jobs.

That sounds sensible enough.

You'd have to go to an admin with more knowledge about how this works though, because when it comes to most of the technical aspects of the server I'm utterly clueless.

[Flying Dice]

Ein has gone from a dog in a pAI to a dog with mobility. Also this happened.

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Air smells funny.

That purple goo had it coming.

[Android]

We do want to implement a time delay for important jobs, however Glloyd is trying to find out how to do it in a way that doesn't make it so regulars who've been playing on the server for awhile don't have to play for a week straight just to play the more important jobs.

AFAIK, if we implemented this, almost all of our regular players wouldnt have an issue, as it is a database function that tracks how much time a player has. And we've had a database.