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[miauw62]

Nah, being coercive to the cyborg was more of me being a dick-borg. But I'm not going to get myself Law-2'd into a module that I don't like. Besides, out of all borgs, Engineering borgs are the best-looking.

That reminds me, I was dissapointed when I broke into the vault for the gold and found out that there wasn't enough gold to make me a VTEC module :c

[Nelia Hawk]

BTW, Asimov law 1 is practically impossible to follow ('through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm'), because if there are two simultaneous problems, you are facing a Morton's Fork - either one or the other instance of harm will happen, you cannot be everywhere.

i would probably interpret the laws more into relation with orders/what i do/reactive measures, than as preventive measures.
as in not trying to prevent all harm possible on my own, as you said the ai cant be everywhere... its a brain in a jar afterall and not 100% electronic who can check all computers all the time (i.e check atmos every 5 seconds) and check all cameras at the same time.

and more use the laws in a way like:
does the order a person gives me break a law?
i.e. botanist wants the doors to the engineering open = nope... botanist has no clue how a engine works so no permission. (as in a untrained person would mess up the engine would cause harm to everyone if the singu gets out.)
or a assistant wants into burning medbay = nope... the assistant would get harmed. or burning plasma gets out into the hallways.
but if a atmos in a firesuit wants to go into burning medbay = yep i let him in as he is trained to deal with fire.... even if he ends up burning to death in there somehow. (ai should keep an eye on him anyways).
or 2 security guards want to get into botany to subdue a botanist with a e sword = probably an "allowed" case (one guard probably not and should call backup first)... as security would be "trained to deal with criminals" even though the esword could harm the security guards. if they end up both dieing to the e-sword... oh well guess they were not trained enough.
and in a reactive way as in: a bomb blew up or plasma leaked somewhere and if i see it i bolt doors leading to it close (and maybe bolting open maintenance doors that lead around the danger) so people dont get harmed. and not preemtive (?) bolting down all plasma tanks at round start.

[Gamerlord]

Decided to try some single player RPing in the current round as a detective investigating an abandoned station.

Here's the transcript from my recorder:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Transcript:

[00:00] Recording started.
[00:14] Sean O'Driscoll says, "This is Sean O'Driscoll, detective, recording."
[00:54] Sean O'Driscoll says, "I have just arrived on Space Station 13 and after securing my gear from my office, I am trying to locate anyone at all."
[01:13] Sean O'Driscoll says, "Cargo bay is empty."
[01:32] Sean O'Driscoll asks, "However, there is motor oil all over the floor - broken machinery?"
[01:35] Recording stopped.
[01:35] Recording started.
[01:37] Recording stopped.
[01:37] Recording started.
[01:42] Sean O'Driscoll asks, "Hello?"
[01:50] Sean O'Driscoll asks, "Sir, can you hear me?"
[02:06] Sean O'Driscoll says, "Okay, gonna need to break the window."
[03:34] Sean O'Driscoll asks, "Hey mate, can you hear me?"
[03:51] Sean O'Driscoll says, "This man is not responding to my entreaties."
[04:03] Sean O'Driscoll says, "His ID says Chief Engineer..."
[04:11] Sean O'Driscoll says, "Best get him out of here."
[04:20] Recording stopped.
[04:20] Recording started.
[04:34] Sean O'Driscoll says, "Looks like everything is working in Atmospherics."
[04:56] Sean O'Driscoll says, "I was a bit worried about this being sabotaged, but it all looks good."
[05:16] Sean O'Driscoll says, "Odd, someone took a fireaxe out of it's cabinet."
[05:23] Sean O'Driscoll asks, "Where is the axe now?"
[05:47] Sean O'Driscoll says, "Come on mate, best get you to the Medbay."
[05:51] Recording stopped.
[05:51] Recording started.
[06:14] Sean O'Driscoll says, "There is nothing missing from Tech Storage, as far as I can determine."
[06:24] Sean O'Driscoll asks, "What happened on this station?"
[06:46] Sean O'Driscoll asks, "I still haven't found that fire axe and what was the Chief Engineer doing in Atmospherics?"
[06:56] Sean O'Driscoll asks, "For that matter, what happened to him?"
[07:04] Sean O'Driscoll says, "He looks like he's in a coma..."
[07:08] Recording stopped.
[07:08] Recording started.
[07:25] Sean O'Driscoll says, "Someone has been prying open doors..."
[07:44] Sean O'Driscoll says, "Maintenance should NOT be open to the public."
[07:50] Recording stopped.
[07:50] Recording started.
[08:09] Sean O'Driscoll says, "Okay, two things."
[08:21] Sean O'Driscoll says, "One: I found the fire ax in engineering."
[08:33] Sean O'Driscoll says, "Two: the Singularity is turned on"
[08:48] Sean O'Driscoll says, "Don't know if I should leave it on or turn it off..."
[08:57] Sean O'Driscoll says, "I'll figure that out -"
[09:02] Sean O'Driscoll asks, "What?"
[09:20] Sean O'Driscoll says, "Someone opened up the secure storage area in Engineering."
[09:33] Sean O'Driscoll says, "Plus they ripped up the floor tiles..."
[09:57] Sean O'Driscoll says, "Doesn't look like anything has been taken though."
[10:09] Sean O'Driscoll says, "More pried open doors."
[10:16] Sean O'Driscoll asks, "What the fuck?"
[10:22] Sean O'Driscoll asks, "Grey tide virus?"
[10:28] Sean O'Driscoll says, "That can't be good."
[10:31] Recording stopped.
[10:31] Recording started.
[10:43] Sean O'Driscoll says, "AHHH"
[10:45] Recording stopped.

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Got killed by a bluespace event that shifted me from the bridge to space.

[miauw62]

By the way, that AI did something that the wiki pretty literally said that you DON'T do, namely instantly broadcasting the name and job of the person that asked acces to AI upload trough the binary channel. You generally say "Unauthorized acces to AI Upload requested" or something like that. Or you just deny acces to AI upload in the binary channel andleave it at that.

[Inscribed]

Um it might have to do with IDs, not PDAs. I probably had my original ID in my hands still when I took Luna's form and spoke.. I'll look into that because that situation itself might be a bit meta  (at least in my own view)

Ok, I was thinking that. First of, sorry it got so 'public'. I did ask in Hologram for a reason, but you know, you were talking to people when I asked.
PErsonally, I think it makes sense that the AI knows this. Clearly, for the AI's benefit, some ID info is partially transmitted. But it might make it a little clunky for Antags.

In any case, I think I will assume changing shape is a nonhuman indicator, even with two conflicting views on it. No ones complained, after all, and I feel it make sense myself. If it is an issue, I hope someone actually lets me know

Edit: If someone asks me to open a door as AI, I always,, unless there is fire and gass on the other side, open. I will state that that door is open, otherwise nothing will be said. But I might look a little harder at someone requesting access to strange area...

[electronics]

I think the serer may have died...

[Donuts]

I... think I might have killed the server when I was editing a knife's stats. Whoopsie.

[electronics]

2nd Server time?

[Gamerlord]

Dammit donuts.

[Donuts]

Dammit donuts.

I know. At least it was time for me to take a break.

[GiantBadger]

nvm, Server back on.

[Vactor]

I just restarted the main server.

[Jacob/Lee]

-snip-

Heh, I was a traitor who had to kill you. I went AFK in the dorms for a while and came back dead, bastard! At least I wasn't cooked into burgers.

[Karlito]

I don't know when the server will be updated next, but all engineers should take note:
1)Magboots can now stop atmospheric pressure differences from pushing you around
2)Large enough pressure differences (the first few seconds of an exposed room or an open canister at max pressure, for example) can overcome the magboots
3)Magboots no longer hold you in place if you aren't standing on anything

[Aseaheru]

So. how long did last night's shift last?
the one that was 2.5 hours in at 12 PM EST.
or was it 1.5?