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[Knirisk]

EDIT: Whoops, sorry.

[scrdest]

Just a heads-up: I sent a pull request to change the odds of gamemodes in Secret. If we do get to 15 or even fabled 20 people online, the gamemodes requiring these populations will be much more likely than Traitor.

If we manage to consistently get high enough populations, it can be changed without any trouble at all; You don't even need any coding expertise at all, it's just a matter of increasing or decreasing some numbers.

Yeah, there's a section in game_options.txt

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### GAME MODES ###

## Probablities for game modes chosen in 'secret' and 'random' modes.
## Default probablity is 1, increase to make that mode more likely to be picked.
## Set to 0 to disable that mode.

PROBABILITY TRAITOR 5
PROBABILITY TRAITORCHAN 4
PROBABILITY NUCLEAR 2
PROBABILITY REVOLUTION 2
PROBABILITY CULT 2
PROBABILITY CHANGELING 2
PROBABILITY WIZARD 4
PROBABILITY MALFUNCTION 1
PROBABILITY BLOB 0
PROBABILITY METEOR 0
PROBABILITY EXTENDED 0

## You probably want to keep sandbox off by default for secret and random.
PROBABILITY SANDBOX 0

We could probably just reweight traitor to the least likely to be picked and the 20-person gamemodes to be the likeliest.

Uhm, I know that. I sent a pull request with doing just that 4-5 hours ago. Although Nuke is still low (on par with the Traitor), given how polarizing it is.

[werty892]

I just reaaaly want to play nuke

[scrdest]

I just reaaaly want to play nuke

Nuke is just Traitor with 4 Traitors murdering the shit out of anyone who stands in their way, or being stealthy fuckers and making the round last forever. So pretty much Traitor with 4 Traitors. Except you get some free gear and lose job access.

[Mono124]

All alone on the server....

[scrdest]

All alone on the server....

You know, an empty server has a great deal of inertia - its emptiness makes people join and go away because sitting on the station all alone feels pointless. So, it's probably a good idea to sit around logged on just to pretend it is not totally empty

[Scelly9]

Break into places and blow up shit.

[BigD145]

Vote sandbox.

[Mono124]

Eh I just figure out what happened during the round that everyone left, then call the shuttle and leave.

[Knirisk]

I just reaaaly want to play nuke

Nuke is just Traitor with 4 Traitors murdering the shit out of anyone who stands in their way, or being stealthy fuckers and making the round last forever. So pretty much Traitor with 4 Traitors. Except you get some free gear and lose job access.

Nuke is just so focused around robusting and widespread carnage that I really can't see it working out very well on smaller servers, especially with rules of meta implemented. I could see Nuke being fun to play on Goonstation and other servers, but that's because the crew is allowed to immediately respond. Moreover, security is a far more popular role on other servers just for the power advantage it has, so it's not like the nuclear operatives go unhindered as they often do here. Meta allows the operatives to set up power sinks and cause widespread chaos without the crew being able to do a damn thing about it unless the captain or security get the crew to help, or the operatives get discovered really early on (which isn't that useful because again meta).

It's really not as fun as it sounds unless you actually go security or take head roles with the possible expectation that it's going to be nuke (which is sort of meta in and of itself, so...)

[Damiac]

I love logging on to an empty server with the power out and holes everywhere. I have fun fixing it back up, although I usually get eaten by carp or spiders or something. 

I think we need to be a little more proactive in conscripting people to be security.  If we don't have enough sec, the heads should be given guns and instructed to patrol every so often or something.  I think with 15-20 people, you really need 3-4 sec at least, and if people are splitting their time between sec and something else, it might require 6 part time sec.  That gives the captain, HOS, CE, HOP, RD, and CMO.  If all those people were armed, you could have most areas covered, and hopefully have someone actually ready to respond if something happens. I left out the QM, because giving him 1 gun is the same as giving him infinite guns.

[Hanslanda]

I love logging on to an empty server with the power out and holes everywhere. I have fun fixing it back up, although I usually get eaten by carp or spiders or something. 

I think we need to be a little more proactive in conscripting people to be security.  If we don't have enough sec, the heads should be given guns and instructed to patrol every so often or something.  I think with 15-20 people, you really need 3-4 sec at least, and if people are splitting their time between sec and something else, it might require 6 part time sec.  That gives the captain, HOS, CE, HOP, RD, and CMO.  If all those people were armed, you could have most areas covered, and hopefully have someone actually ready to respond if something happens. I left out the QM, because giving him 1 gun is the same as giving him infinite guns.

Infinite guns, infinite grenades, infinite armor, infinite health kits, infinite building materials. Quartermaster is god.

Nuke is just Traitor with 4 Traitors murdering the shit out of anyone who stands in their way, or being stealthy fuckers and making the round last forever. So pretty much Traitor with 4 Traitors. Except you get some free gear and lose job access.

This. I do not find it nearly as exciting as everyone else does, apparently. Traitorchan is a MUCH better gamemode, as is Cult, and Rev.

[Damiac]

Yeah, I don't get the draw of nuke, especially with the bare minimum amount of people. It's either well armed antags murderizing everyone, or sneaky antags blowing up the station before you know anything is happening.  I prefer the intrigue of modes where some of the normal crew have a secret role, rather than nuke and wizard (and aliums), where the antags aren't even part of the crew.

Well, the QM already has infinite health kits and building materials even without a gun, but with a gun they have everything.  Then again, if the QM is an antag, they already have access anyway...

I think it'd be nice if you had to have the proper stamp to even have the high security crates sent.  That way, at least the antag QM has to steal the HoS or captain's stamp before he can go and order guns and ammo.  Plus those stamps get like zero use currently.

[Hanslanda]

Special Ops crates need no card or stamp, and they have parapens in them. Parapens are the best weapon in the game. >.>

[b_knight286]

I am personally terrified of all game modes but traitor.  What was that sandbox someone mentioned?