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[Glloyd]

You can still radiate heat into space in Bay. My point was that space isn't cold, and you'd have better success just running it through a third freezer.

In other news, we're postponing the event to next Saturday at the same time, because a bunch of stuff came up IRL.

[KingofstarrySkies]

DAMN

[miauw62]

Just have an overflow valve that routes the superfluous gas into space or the distro loop.

[rabidgam3r]

I'm fine with next Saturday. Day after halloween's gonna be hectic anyways

[IcyTea31]

In other news, we're postponing the event to next Saturday at the same time, because a bunch of stuff came up IRL.

Oh well. If you're rescheduling it anyway, could you consider changing the hour as well? Where I live it would begin at 2 AM. No offense taken if you refuse, I will come even if it means playing at night.

[Radio Controlled]

One thing Id like to try adding is on the cooling line setup radiators out in space to the right of the engine room to passive cool the cooling loop.  That could alleviate alot of overheat/bad setups

Only thing is that space isn't cold.

For the people wondering what he means: space has a very, VERY low temperature. However, due to the lack of a medium to carry away heat quickly, you can only cool down by way of radiating heat, a rather slow process. So a human jumping into a lake with a low watertemperature will cool down more quickly than he would in space (because the cold water around him can carry away heat very fast), even though the water has a higher temperature than space.

[Cheedows]

On the topic of heat, Bay fires are so hilariously destructive.  A fire in the holodeck managed to radiate enough heat to roast people in escape, same thing with that mutiny round where a napalm grenade killed half the crew.

[scrdest]

One thing Id like to try adding is on the cooling line setup radiators out in space to the right of the engine room to passive cool the cooling loop.  That could alleviate alot of overheat/bad setups

Only thing is that space isn't cold.

For the people wondering what he means: space has a very, VERY low temperature. However, due to the lack of a medium to carry away heat quickly, you can only cool down by way of radiating heat, a rather slow process. So a human jumping into a lake with a low watertemperature will cool down more quickly than he would in space (because the cold water around him can carry away heat very fast), even though the water has a higher temperature than space.

Spoiler: Lecture mode: on: (click to show/hide)

Even more pedantically - space does not have a temperature at all. Space proper is just... well, space. Emptiness. Only things that are IN space have temperature, because temperature is velocity. Speed of atoms vibrating, speed of bonds between atoms moving, speed of everything moving in the traditional sense...

So, when you feel heat, simplifying all the things involved in your body perceiving it, what you feel is thousands and thousands of (usually gas) particles hitting you.

Since there's very few things in any given volume of what we call space, there simply is not enough of anything flying through it at once for them to have their total kinetic energy much above absolute zero - you can approximate space as being cold because it doesn't heat anything up by itself, because of that.

And furthermore, if we were talking living things, all the things involved in life generate waste heat at a much faster rate than it can be dispersed by turning it into electromagnetic radiation, so you're more likely to cook in your own heat rather than freeze in space.

[miauw62]

I wonder how long it will take BS12 to make the space station look more like a real space station, considering their obsession with realism, even if it gets in the way of fun.

[Cerapter]

From what I gathered, BayStation 12 is only related to Bay 12 in name, and nothing else. Well, maybe the fact that it also uses "Urist McTrait" as an example guy in anecdotes.

Sad, really.

[miauw62]

Name and history, yes. IIRC we burned through several SS13 threads before this one started.
And Urist McTrait is also common in tgstation.

[Radio Controlled]

One thing Id like to try adding is on the cooling line setup radiators out in space to the right of the engine room to passive cool the cooling loop.  That could alleviate alot of overheat/bad setups

Only thing is that space isn't cold.

For the people wondering what he means: space has a very, VERY low temperature. However, due to the lack of a medium to carry away heat quickly, you can only cool down by way of radiating heat, a rather slow process. So a human jumping into a lake with a low watertemperature will cool down more quickly than he would in space (because the cold water around him can carry away heat very fast), even though the water has a higher temperature than space.

Spoiler: Lecture mode: on: (click to show/hide)

Even more pedantically - space does not have a temperature at all. Space proper is just... well, space. Emptiness. Only things that are IN space have temperature, because temperature is velocity. Speed of atoms vibrating, speed of bonds between atoms moving, speed of everything moving in the traditional sense...

So, when you feel heat, simplifying all the things involved in your body perceiving it, what you feel is thousands and thousands of (usually gas) particles hitting you.

Since there's very few things in any given volume of what we call space, there simply is not enough of anything flying through it at once for them to have their total kinetic energy much above absolute zero - you can approximate space as being cold because it doesn't heat anything up by itself, because of that.

And furthermore, if we were talking living things, all the things involved in life generate waste heat at a much faster rate than it can be dispersed by turning it into electromagnetic radiation, so you're more likely to cook in your own heat rather than freeze in space.

Was that aimed at me? Or just a comment in general? Because my explanation was deliberately simplistic.

By the way, even in vacuum you have cosmic background radiation, so your thermometer will still give you a reading, like 2-3 Kelvin or so. And when one says 'space' that includes the various dispersed molecules, which indeed have a temperature. Perfect vacuum doesn't really exist, as as as I know. So I think you can say it still has a temperature, if you treat it as an incredibly dispersed gas.

[Glloyd]

So github apparently made my contribution log 2spooky for Halloween:

[miauw62]

I admire your contribution streak. I guess that I DO hang out in coderbus usually and help people, though.

[Cerapter]

Speaking of coding, I might try my hand at that. Where do you guys suggest I should start?
I saw the wiki had some pages regarding coding, I'll look up those.