Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Octobomb]

Science
Now if anyone ever wants to do a toxins revamp, it should be from this stuff. Some of this stuff is truly, beautifully awful and I think I know what I want to do as a job. Some excerpts, although I really do recommend you read it all:

Hexanitro? Say what? I'd call for all the chemists who've ever worked with a hexanitro compound to raise their hands, but that might be assuming too much about the limb-to-chemist ratio.

That Wikipedia article drolly notes that "In its most characteristic reaction, the solid decomposes explosively", and because it's a silver salt, that decomposition can be set off by foolhardy behavior like shining a strong light on it.

One drop of N3F will pulverize any glass within a 5-cm distance.

"....Keeping the reaction mixture for about 15 min at -64 °C resulted in a violent explosion that destroyed the sample container and the surrounding stainless-steel Dewar flask."
Did I mention that this prep was performed on less than one millimole? Spirited stuff, that tetra-azide. The experimental section of the paper enjoins the reader to wear a face shield, leather suit, and ear plugs, to work behind all sorts of blast shields, and to use Teflon and stainless steel apparatus so as to minimize shrapnel. Hmm. Ranking my equipment in terms of its shrapneliferousness is not something that's ever occurred to me, I have to say. It's safe to assume that any procedure which involves considering which parts of the apparatus I'd prefer to have flying past me will not get much business in my lab, no matter how dashing I might look in a leather suit.

For dealing with this situation, I have always recommended a good pair of running shoes.

There's more, and they get worse too. SS13 chemistry has nothing on this.

[Isdar]

 

Wat.

The X and C buttons are dangerously close to eachother on my keyboard.

[Glloyd]

One drop of N3F will pulverize any glass within a 5-cm distance.

That would be a really interesting one to have in SS13.

[Aseaheru]

Oof, those are fun.

Hey, anyone know what the Mercury thingie that is a wonderful rocket fuel but will give you cancer thru thick gloves is called?

[Vactor]

I think you mean Dimethylmercury, which is a potent neurotoxin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylmercury

[scrdest]

I think you mean Dimethylmercury, which is a potent neurotoxin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylmercury

You post so rarely around here that I IMMEDIATELY assumed you were announcing a server update :3

[miauw62]

I think you mean Dimethylmercury, which is a potent neurotoxin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylmercury

Rename Impredezene to Dimethylmercury.
DONE :V

seriously though, ss13 reagent system usually isnt complex enough for a lot of cool chemicals. Stuff that explodes is just stuff that causes an explosion, and you don't need fifty different explosive reagents if they all just explode.

[LordSlowpoke]

then make a better reagent system didn't you pride yourself in not making shit code

[Man of Paper]

Wat.

The X and C buttons are dangerously close to eachother on my keyboard.

Sexily close.

[KingofstarrySkies]

One drop of N3F will pulverize any glass within a 5-cm distance.

That would be a really interesting one to have in SS13.

What if you mixed it with something that could break girders? Oh, the shitlering.

[Vactor]

If you wanted to make the system more interesting and dangerous, it would require rethinking the chemistry minigame, where how you handle the chemicals matters more, temperature control, stability, method used to mix, and purification proccesses all factor in to what kind of output you have.  You could have dangerous compounds that are very useful as non-explosives, either on their own, or as a part of the process of making more complex (possibly stable) compounds. 

I could see having a variety of equipment, like magnetic stirrers, paint can shakers, and centrifuges that cause differing effects on reactions.  Having chemical reactions be non-instant would probably help this as well.

This would of course make chemistry even more obtuse for someone to get into without using some kind of guide.

[Octobomb]

If you wanted to make the system more interesting and dangerous, it would require rethinking the chemistry minigame, where how you handle the chemicals matters more, temperature control, stability, method used to mix, and purification proccesses all factor in to what kind of output you have.  You could have dangerous compounds that are very useful as non-explosives, either on their own, or as a part of the process of making more complex (possibly stable) compounds. 

I could see having a variety of equipment, like magnetic stirrers, paint can shakers, and centrifuges that cause differing effects on reactions.  Having chemical reactions be non-instant would probably help this as well.

This would of course make chemistry even more obtuse for someone to get into without using some kind of guide.

See, I'd leave chemistry, and give all the shiny toys to toxins for bomb making. But I'm me, and I'm just overly fond of huge explosions and fluorine fires.

[Hanslanda]

I am sorry to anyone who was in that last round who wasn't on the Gateway mission. I know at least two people missed it. Sorry about that. It was a really fun away mission to the Space Battle.

[Aseaheru]

I think you mean Dimethylmercury, which is a potent neurotoxin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylmercury

Thats the one, thanks.

[scrdest]

If you wanted to make the system more interesting and dangerous, it would require rethinking the chemistry minigame, where how you handle the chemicals matters more, temperature control, stability, method used to mix, and purification proccesses all factor in to what kind of output you have.  You could have dangerous compounds that are very useful as non-explosives, either on their own, or as a part of the process of making more complex (possibly stable) compounds. 

I could see having a variety of equipment, like magnetic stirrers, paint can shakers, and centrifuges that cause differing effects on reactions.  Having chemical reactions be non-instant would probably help this as well.

This would of course make chemistry even more obtuse for someone to get into without using some kind of guide.

Sorta like... hmm... Bay Med?

And this is actually a thing that's (or was) being done - a complete overhaul and Goon port of the system, which DOES take temperature, reaction efficiency, and some more fun stuff into consideration, as well as introduces 'Biochemistry' (actually Biotechnology, but I'm hardly objective in that matter) i.e. using various organism-derived enzymes to get some reactions in a nice and clean way.

By the sound of it, you're pretty knowledgeable about this stuff. How come?