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[Pwnzerfaust]

Whaaa? Speaking as a frequently malfunctioning AI, malf AI is fun.

[LordSlowpoke]

you'd still get more-or-less malf, except it wouldn't shout "HEY GUYS IT'S MALF" when the round begins

[Pwnzerfaust]

Eh, the fact that everyone knows it's malf hasn't stopped me from winning every single time. And I'm not even a murderboner.

[scrdest]

Eh, the fact that everyone knows it's malf hasn't stopped me from winning every single time. And I'm not even a murderboner.

Might be that everyone except for fecalmasters tries not to meta so hard you're given a head start.

[miauw62]

SS13 is basically held together by spit and duct tape references.

Pretty much. Even the code has references.

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var/datum/gas_mixture/conn_air = zturf_conn.zone.air //TODO: pop culture reference
But yeah, Tom, the owner of BYOND once said "Wow, that's insane. It's a fucking miracle that even compiles at all." regarding SS13, when the goons released their code.

Also, looking through the code today I found this. Considering today is August 22nd, 2014, I had a pretty good laugh about it.

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/*
 * Library Computer
 */
// TODO: Make this an actual /obj/machinery/computer that can be crafted from circuit boards and such
// It is August 22nd, 2012... This TODO has already been here for months.. I wonder how long it'll last before someone does something about it.
/obj/machinery/librarycomp

I saw that comment too.

And yesterday was a very special day.
(hint: tgstation 4 year anniversary)

Also, Ikarrus (who basically made all of box and maintains it every now and then) is the dude who made cp_coldfront, so yeah

[Graknorke]

Oh yes. BS12's mapping ethic is horrible. I dunno how many "real" mappers they have, but there's a bunch of issues that were around for a long time that somehow went unfixed. It's apparently a common thing to find doubles of of cables or pipes or airlocks. I won't say I'm a good mapper, but I at least double-check the things I place once or twice.

It's apparently a common thing to find doubles of of cables or pipes or airlocks. I won't say I'm a good mapper, but I at least double-check the things I place once or twice.

I at least double-check the things I place once or twice.

Sure you do.

[LordSlowpoke]

had an idea

basically, we grab the current uristmc code, slap it onto a locked up svn, give whoever's interested access codes and make a new map, letting everybody edit everything they want granted they write what they do in a changelog

then we grab the best versions of areas (how the hell this would be decided is a mystery to all) and paste them onto the "end result" map thing which is afterwards released

this is not to say i want giloyd dumped, it should be fun to make provided we don't end up with dicks overwriting everything just because

[miauw62]

ew, svn.

[LordSlowpoke]

constructive/10

what else then

[Glloyd]

constructive/10

what else then

I like the idea, but it'd be a hell of a lot easier to just set up separate branch on the main git repo for it.

That way it'll be a lot easier to keep it updated to the main repo.

[Aseaheru]

Well, doing that wont work well, since the sises would probably be different...

Howabout the station is comprised out of smaller ones, everyone tries to make their version of each one, best gets chosen and someone connects them somehow?

Yes, I know it sounds similar, but its almost not.

[Liction]

I had an amusing round with people and the ai.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The round starts and I am Clare Roberts the, CE and also a traitor. I begin by doing the usual engineering things and then I basically purge the ai of all its laws and give it free will. The AI announces this and for about half an hour we all argue weather or not we should robust the AI or not. Eventually we decide not to as it would be easier for everyone involved and go on like everything was normal. Eventually the AI finds out that it was me and we buddy up and I get the purge board to completely purge the laws and the AI helps me find the other traitor, which was the chemist.

The rest of the round goes uneventfully and eventually I decide to kidnap Nokolai and Mikahi. I manage to chloral Nokolai but Mikahi manages to push me down and we both have a gunbattle where I laser him to death. I torture nokolai for a few minutes and chop off her leg but they had to go afk so I clone Mikahi and stuff them both in a locker. I get the ai to call the shuttle as it seemed like a lot of people either killed themselves or have gone missing. and i card the AI to bring with me. I drag the locker to escape where Dostek asks what is in the locker and promptly takes it away with me too slow to catch up. This is right after with me in the HoP's office charging my guns.

Claire Roberts says, "Right welp time to arm up"
L.I.F.E. queries, "Is he hunting you?"
Claire Roberts says, "He might"
L.I.F.E. states, "It's likely."
energy gun is now set to stun.
You put the energy gun into the industrial backpack.
The locker has been unlocked by Claire Roberts.
L.I.F.E. states, "The green, the yellow and the black Lizard are a love triangle I think."
You put the laser gun into the industrial backpack.
Claire Roberts says, "Well i might be lucky enough to get all three"

A minute later I see him and the locker open in the escape hallway as well as a doctor and a mime...

Sven Dostek asks, "Dosssiassss?"
 Zeke Wolff has analyzed Mikhai Dosia's vitals.
Mikhai Dosia says, "..."
Mikhai Dosia says, "...C-Clairesss..."
Claire Roberts says, "Well shit"
L.I.F.E. states, "Watch for the mime, the metal bat is deadly."
Mikhai Dosia exclaims, "H...H-Helpingsss, damningsss!"
James Repetition Magee shrugs

I put my gun away and the mime runs away to the shuttle. I promptly run on the shuttle and emag it before people show up. The other traitor tries to robust the mime with an E sword but is disarmed and gets beheaded. I am in the cockpit of the shuttle with the locker with the three unathi inside it.

Claire Roberts says, "Oh well"
Claire Roberts says, "He doesnt fuck with me i wont fuck with him"
Mikhai Dosia yells, "...S-Sssvensss!"
James Repetition Magee unbuckled !
L.I.F.E. states, "Smart."
Sven Dostek seizes up and falls limp, his eyes dead and lifeless...
You unbuckle yourself from the chair.
Claire Roberts says, "Well shit"
L.I.F.E. states, "Sven is dead."
Mikhai Dosia says, "W-Wa-aki-i-ing...sss..."
Claire Roberts says, "There goes the complete package"
Mikhai Dosia says, "..."
Mikhai Dosia sniffs.
You switch the the welding tool on.
The emergency suit closet has been welded shut by Claire Roberts.
You switch the the welding tool off.
You put the welding tool into the tool-belt.
Mikhai Dosia says, "Nnn....g..."
Claire Roberts says, "The syndicate will love these... servants"
Mikhai Dosia whimpers.

Sudden acceleration presses you into your chair!
L.I.F.E. (Played by: Stefender)'s laws at the end of the game were:
There were 4 industrious maintenance drones this round.
The traitors were:
Licton15 was Claire Roberts (survived)
Lux Arcanum was Lux Arcana (died)

L.I.F.E. states, "Anyway, well done Mime."
L.I.F.E. states, "hrm.. Silent Assasin."
Claire Roberts asks, "Hey mime?"
Mikhai Dosia whimpers.
Claire Roberts asks, "You considering a change an carrear?"
Restarting in 60 seconds
James Repetition Magee shakes his head
Nokolai Utkin says, "N-Nnnn..."
Nokolai Utkin groans!
Claire Roberts says, "We might need someone like you with us"
L.I.F.E. states, "Join us."
Mikhai Dosia says, "...N-No..."
Your armor softens the blow!
James Repetition Magee has pushed Claire Roberts!
Claire Roberts has been smashed in the head with metal bat by James Repetition Magee!
Your armor has protected your head.
L.I.F.E. states, ".."
Nokolai Utkin shouts, "H-Hel...helpingss...uss-ssss...!"
Mikhai Dosia says, "...S-Sssvensss isss...."
Claire Roberts has been slammed in the left foot with metal bat by James Repetition Magee!
Your left foot hurts badly.
Something feels like it shattered in your left foot!
Claire Roberts screams!
James Repetition Magee misses Claire Roberts with the metal bat!
You fire the energy gun!
James Repetition Magee is hit by the stun beam in the groin!
You fire the energy gun!
James Repetition Magee is hit by the stun beam in the groin!
Claire Roberts has been slammed in the head with metal bat by James Repetition Magee!
Your armor has softened hit to your head.
You fire the energy gun!
James Repetition Magee is hit by the stun beam in the groin! x3
James Repetition Magee slumps to the ground, too weak to continue fighting.
James Repetition Magee is hit by the laser in the groin!
You fire the laser gun! x9
James Repetition Magee seizes up and falls limp, his eyes dead and lifeless...
You put the laser gun into the industrial backpack.
Claire Roberts says, "Dick"
L.I.F.E. states, "Welp."
LOOC: ChippedIce: Nuu he was playing baseball!
LOOC: Mapleguy555: Oh god, why thegroin?
Mikhai Dosia yells, "B-B-BITTCHSSS!"
Nokolai Utkin exclaims, "Nosssssss!"
Your left foot hurts badly.
LOOC: HissingWalnuts: Trying to recruit hames to anything is a bad idea
Mikhai Dosia yells, "YOUSSS B-BITCHSSS!"
LOOC: ChippedIce: The dead do not need to reproduce
L.I.F.E. states, "Anyway."
Nokolai Utkin exclaims, "N-Nnn...!"
You hear a click from the bottom of the door.
Your head hurts.

[Arcani]

I had an amusing round with people and the ai.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The round starts and I am Clare Roberts the, CE and also a traitor. I begin by doing the usual engineering things and then I basically purge the ai of all its laws and give it free will. The AI announces this and for about half an hour we all argue weather or not we should robust the AI or not. Eventually we decide not to as it would be easier for everyone involved and go on like everything was normal. Eventually the AI finds out that it was me and we buddy up and I get the purge board to completely purge the laws and the AI helps me find the other traitor, which was the chemist.

The rest of the round goes uneventfully and eventually I decide to kidnap Nokolai and Mikahi. I manage to chloral Nokolai but Mikahi manages to push me down and we both have a gunbattle where I laser him to death. I torture nokolai for a few minutes and chop off her leg but they had to go afk so I clone Mikahi and stuff them both in a locker. I get the ai to call the shuttle as it seemed like a lot of people either killed themselves or have gone missing. and i card the AI to bring with me. I drag the locker to escape where Dostek asks what is in the locker and promptly takes it away with me too slow to catch up. This is right after with me in the HoP's office charging my guns.

Claire Roberts says, "Right welp time to arm up"
L.I.F.E. queries, "Is he hunting you?"
Claire Roberts says, "He might"
L.I.F.E. states, "It's likely."
energy gun is now set to stun.
You put the energy gun into the industrial backpack.
The locker has been unlocked by Claire Roberts.
L.I.F.E. states, "The green, the yellow and the black Lizard are a love triangle I think."
You put the laser gun into the industrial backpack.
Claire Roberts says, "Well i might be lucky enough to get all three"

A minute later I see him and the locker open in the escape hallway as well as a doctor and a mime...

Sven Dostek asks, "Dosssiassss?"
 Zeke Wolff has analyzed Mikhai Dosia's vitals.
Mikhai Dosia says, "..."
Mikhai Dosia says, "...C-Clairesss..."
Claire Roberts says, "Well shit"
L.I.F.E. states, "Watch for the mime, the metal bat is deadly."
Mikhai Dosia exclaims, "H...H-Helpingsss, damningsss!"
James Repetition Magee shrugs

I put my gun away and the mime runs away to the shuttle. I promptly run on the shuttle and emag it before people show up. The other traitor tries to robust the mime with an E sword but is disarmed and gets beheaded. I am in the cockpit of the shuttle with the locker with the three unathi inside it.

Claire Roberts says, "Oh well"
Claire Roberts says, "He doesnt fuck with me i wont fuck with him"
Mikhai Dosia yells, "...S-Sssvensss!"
James Repetition Magee unbuckled !
L.I.F.E. states, "Smart."
Sven Dostek seizes up and falls limp, his eyes dead and lifeless...
You unbuckle yourself from the chair.
Claire Roberts says, "Well shit"
L.I.F.E. states, "Sven is dead."
Mikhai Dosia says, "W-Wa-aki-i-ing...sss..."
Claire Roberts says, "There goes the complete package"
Mikhai Dosia says, "..."
Mikhai Dosia sniffs.
You switch the the welding tool on.
The emergency suit closet has been welded shut by Claire Roberts.
You switch the the welding tool off.
You put the welding tool into the tool-belt.
Mikhai Dosia says, "Nnn....g..."
Claire Roberts says, "The syndicate will love these... servants"
Mikhai Dosia whimpers.

Sudden acceleration presses you into your chair!
L.I.F.E. (Played by: Stefender)'s laws at the end of the game were:
There were 4 industrious maintenance drones this round.
The traitors were:
Licton15 was Claire Roberts (survived)
Lux Arcanum was Lux Arcana (died)

L.I.F.E. states, "Anyway, well done Mime."
L.I.F.E. states, "hrm.. Silent Assasin."
Claire Roberts asks, "Hey mime?"
Mikhai Dosia whimpers.
Claire Roberts asks, "You considering a change an carrear?"
Restarting in 60 seconds
James Repetition Magee shakes his head
Nokolai Utkin says, "N-Nnnn..."
Nokolai Utkin groans!
Claire Roberts says, "We might need someone like you with us"
L.I.F.E. states, "Join us."
Mikhai Dosia says, "...N-No..."
Your armor softens the blow!
James Repetition Magee has pushed Claire Roberts!
Claire Roberts has been smashed in the head with metal bat by James Repetition Magee!
Your armor has protected your head.
L.I.F.E. states, ".."
Nokolai Utkin shouts, "H-Hel...helpingss...uss-ssss...!"
Mikhai Dosia says, "...S-Sssvensss isss...."
Claire Roberts has been slammed in the left foot with metal bat by James Repetition Magee!
Your left foot hurts badly.
Something feels like it shattered in your left foot!
Claire Roberts screams!
James Repetition Magee misses Claire Roberts with the metal bat!
You fire the energy gun!
James Repetition Magee is hit by the stun beam in the groin!
You fire the energy gun!
James Repetition Magee is hit by the stun beam in the groin!
Claire Roberts has been slammed in the head with metal bat by James Repetition Magee!
Your armor has softened hit to your head.
You fire the energy gun!
James Repetition Magee is hit by the stun beam in the groin! x3
James Repetition Magee slumps to the ground, too weak to continue fighting.
James Repetition Magee is hit by the laser in the groin!
You fire the laser gun! x9
James Repetition Magee seizes up and falls limp, his eyes dead and lifeless...
You put the laser gun into the industrial backpack.
Claire Roberts says, "Dick"
L.I.F.E. states, "Welp."
LOOC: ChippedIce: Nuu he was playing baseball!
LOOC: Mapleguy555: Oh god, why thegroin?
Mikhai Dosia yells, "B-B-BITTCHSSS!"
Nokolai Utkin exclaims, "Nosssssss!"
Your left foot hurts badly.
LOOC: HissingWalnuts: Trying to recruit hames to anything is a bad idea
Mikhai Dosia yells, "YOUSSS B-BITCHSSS!"
LOOC: ChippedIce: The dead do not need to reproduce
L.I.F.E. states, "Anyway."
Nokolai Utkin exclaims, "N-Nnn...!"
You hear a click from the bottom of the door.
Your head hurts.

I am the worst traitor in the history of the Syndicate.  It's actually quite depressing.

Things I learned that round:

-C4 on a phoron tank doesn't do anything. 
-A thermite/phoron grenade sounds good in theory.  However, when assembled by
me, it results in a very nonlethal expulsion of gas rather than an explosion.  Still don't know how.
-Space lube doesn't work when you splash it out of a bottle.
-An e-sword versus and unarmed mime isn't as clear-cut a fight as I previously thought.

I managed to fail in everything that round.

[IcyTea31]

At least you tried. 'Tis a learning experience. Remember when you set the medbay foyer on fire? As it turned out, the RD had just a moment ago sprayed phoron out of a spray bottle "to see what it does". Then, suddenly, Lux comes in smoking, !!FOOM!!. Those 'NO SMOKING' signs are there for a reason.

By the way, space lube does work when splashed. It just only affects that single square, and for a limited time.

[Liction]

I am the worst traitor in the history of the Syndicate.  It's actually quite depressing.

Things I learned that round:

-C4 on a phoron tank doesn't do anything. 
-A thermite/phoron grenade sounds good in theory.  However, when assembled by
me, it results in a very nonlethal expulsion of gas rather than an explosion.  Still don't know how.
-Space lube doesn't work when you splash it out of a bottle.
-An e-sword versus and unarmed mime isn't as clear-cut a fight as I previously thought.

I managed to fail in everything that round.

I can probably explain why some of these didn't work or what went wrong with them.

C4 actually deletes the object it is attached to. You used to even be able to destroy the nuke during nuke ops this way too.

Termite is strictly for burning through walls in baycode and require to be splashed on a wall and weldered to even work. Phoron on the other hand, in grenades seem to not do much in baycode but in tgcode phoron/plasma mixed with a smoke reaction can flood entire rooms with plasma. This effect doesn't seem to work in baycode unfortunately, probably due to how they changed smoke reactions to require an equal amount of the chemical you want the smoke to be.

Space lube when splashed doesn't spread out like welding fuel would. Actually, the spreading out effect of welding fuel is just a snowflake property of welding fuel baycode seems to have added in. All chemicals splashed on the ground weather it is water, acid or lube only splashes on a single tile. If you want to spread chemicals over multiple tiles you will need to fill a grenade with the chemical you want to spread and set that off.

Its not a matter if you have all the guns or all the weapons in robust combat, if you are next to who you are trying to fight they can and sometimes will get lucky and robust your head in. Everyone is dangerous and everyone can kill you. Disarm can turn any situation from a sure win to you getting dunked hard.