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Author Topic: Space Station 13: Urist McStation  (Read 2161835 times)

Bdthemag

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #11955 on: November 17, 2013, 01:25:18 am »

I half-assed killing b_knight because I was bored and accidentally spent all of my telecrystals without thinking. Didn't really feel like running around setting something up for the next thirty minutes, so I took the easy way out.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #11956 on: November 17, 2013, 01:27:01 am »

Also, you can't command the AI to not consider someone human.

i'd like to hear the explanation/rationale for this, as i don't understand it exactly. since theres a onehuman standard board, shouldn't the inverse also be allowable?

I believe by command he's referring to actually telling the AI that someone isn't human. Doing it through rules should definitively work, since the laws pretty much trump everything.

I don't get it either, at no point does defining a human go against any of the laws (well, besides the fact that AI should resist attempts to upload such law due to it causing harm to de-humaned person). The laws simply tell the AI to protect humans, the definiton of humans is not stated by default and as such cannot supersede any other definition.

A few things about this:

The order of the laws isn't just to show priority, it is the mechanical order in which they are processed.  Remember laws like this are based in the old days of computers that could only handle a single argument at a time.

If we presume that the AI has no definition of what a human is or what harm is, then the laws are meaningless, and a non-corrupted AI can just go nuts and kill the crew all the time, in any round.

There is a reason the "One Human Law" creates a 0th Law.  It needs to be processed before Law 1 in order for it to work as intended.  If you try to  use a free form law and make it 4th or 5th, it would be overridden by law 1, unless you are in fact the only human.

If you want to do one human + other stuff, use the One Human Module to create a 0th law, then freeform in your additional laws as 4th 5th etc.  This is the best way to do it and it makes it very clear for the AI player how they should behave.  Making a freeform one human law just creates confusion.


Sorry to bring this up, Had a debate about free-forms and someone was saying we could use 4th laws to define the 1st law. Then Connor James used it to make a 4th law saying that the A.I. had to quote poetry every minute or the crew would come to harm. Then when I told the A.I. to disregard the 4th law it was argued that since it defined the 1st law it took priority. The A.I. player more or less stopped playing after that, and I don't really blame him since at that point its hard to have fun when you have to either keep making poems or look them up constantly to RP correctly.

« Last Edit: December 19, 2013, 07:31:33 am by deoloth »
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #11957 on: November 17, 2013, 01:53:43 am »

Connor James in a previous round today (or yesterday since it's 1:50 am) stole guns from the armory and lasered a sec officer into critical for trying to stop him. Sure we were traitors but he did not know ICly and shot him AFTER the officer was stunned. 
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #11958 on: November 17, 2013, 03:20:32 am »

HoP traitor.  Killed literally EVERYONE ELSE on the station.  Char's name is Connor James, in case the admins wish to know for whatever reason.  At least reprimand him, please!

To be perfectly honest, I had fun trying to escape the hacked AIs various attempts on my life. Too bad I let my guard down and tried to walk through a door...


In other news, I feel bad for that borg last round. He was being overly insistent on keeping everyone out of harms way and getting them to the shuttle after someone *cough* let the singularity loose (again), so I played a joke on him, and jumped out the airlock into deep space.

Unfortunately, he apparently followed me out said airlock and got stuck. Meanwhile, I had a hand tele and had set the teleporter to the escape shuttle beacon earlier. >_>
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #11959 on: November 17, 2013, 06:57:16 am »

HoP traitor.  Killed literally EVERYONE ELSE on the station.  Char's name is Connor James, in case the admins wish to know for whatever reason.  At least reprimand him, please!

To be perfectly honest, I had fun trying to escape the hacked AIs various attempts on my life. Too bad I let my guard down and tried to walk through a door...


In other news, I feel bad for that borg last round. He was being overly insistent on keeping everyone out of harms way and getting them to the shuttle after someone *cough* let the singularity loose (again), so I played a joke on him, and jumped out the airlock into deep space.

Unfortunately, he apparently followed me out said airlock and got stuck. Meanwhile, I had a hand tele and had set the teleporter to the escape shuttle beacon earlier. >_>

I can just picture the borg shouting, "I WILL SAVE YOU" as he leaps into space after you, only for you to vanish a moment later and to leave him drifting alone in the deep dark.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #11960 on: November 17, 2013, 09:08:42 am »

I actually went back out after him, but it's impossible to find anything in space.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #11961 on: November 17, 2013, 12:32:01 pm »

Whenever I want to play, the server is down.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #11962 on: November 17, 2013, 07:16:22 pm »

server is back up now
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #11963 on: November 17, 2013, 07:32:04 pm »

Hoo rah!
Why is it going down so much lately?
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #11964 on: November 17, 2013, 08:07:41 pm »

It appears to go down every morning.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #11965 on: November 18, 2013, 12:27:11 am »

Damn. Sorry Gallant, when I threw you in I forgot cryo heals even when off. I thought my 5+ cryostings would had killed you in there.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #11966 on: November 18, 2013, 01:22:51 am »

Who stung me on the shuttle? Was it you or Ozarck?
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« Reply #11967 on: November 18, 2013, 02:40:51 am »

Who stung me on the shuttle? Was it you or Ozarck?

I stung everyone.

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #11968 on: November 18, 2013, 03:11:59 pm »

Heh, they broke it. 3-man Meteor mode.  There's about 5 people actually on, though.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #11969 on: November 18, 2013, 05:33:20 pm »


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