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[scrdest]

True, but what about drugs that cause psychotic episodes? In these cases, the main feature of the drug is that it makes you BATSHIT-FUCKING-INSANE, in a way that is very very likely to cause harm to others. Shouldn't they be banned?

[kaijyuu]

a) I would never take any psychoactive substances due to destructive manner of their action and influence on health -thus people who use should be locked up tight and cured
b) I have nothing against psychoactive substances but personally I would never consume them because ...
c) I sometimes use psychoactive substances, because ...
d) I frequently use psychoactive substances, because ...
e) I'm addicted, because ...
f) *your personal answer*

C.

I like caffeine. Also my ADD medication would probably count too.


I've nothing against people who take drugs so long as they know what they're doing and not harming anyone else. They sure as hell shouldn't drive when high and such. But if they do it where no one else is in danger then, well, more power to them. Have fun~

[lordcooper]

True, but what about drugs that cause psychotic episodes?

Like caffeine?

[Onlyhestands]

c) I drink on occasion, use psychedelics, MDMA, and occasionally other drugs, although I haven't used anything, even alcohol in a long time because real life gets in the way. I don't consider my usage problematic and I don't intend to stop. Its about moderation really.
Also e) in that I'm hopeless addicted to cigarettes and coffee.

[Reudh]

a) I would never take any psychoactive substances due to destructive manner of their action and influence on health -thus people who use should be locked up tight and cured
b) I have nothing against psychoactive substances but personally I would never consume them because ...
c) I sometimes use psychoactive substances, because ...
d) I frequently use psychoactive substances, because ...
e) I'm addicted, because ...
f) *your personal answer*

Bit of B, bit of F, bit of C.

B: I don't care what other people do to themselves as long as it doesn't affect me. My family line has underlying psychosis, so I'd rather not trigger that with psychoactive substances.

F: Having seen what some drugs have done to people I know, I'm going to stay far, far away from them. A guy from my highschool got on Ice/meth, and looks visibly aged and damaged.

C: I regularly drink coffee to the point where I'm quite addicted to it; if I don't get my caffeine/coffee fix at least once a day, I become grouchy and headachy. It's probably not a good thing. I drink alcohol every now and again, but I generally don't take it to excess (except last Saturday, where I probably pipped 0.20% BAC and finished the night growling at the fence and lamenting why all the good girls were either taken or lesbian (it makes sense in context). I just remember being sick everywhere and that it was not a fun time in the slightest; therefore, I am never drinking to excess again. A small drink every now and then would be fine, but never anything past about 5 or so standard drinks.

[weenog]

True, but what about drugs that cause psychotic episodes? In these cases, the main feature of the drug is that it makes you BATSHIT-FUCKING-INSANE, in a way that is very very likely to cause harm to others. Shouldn't they be banned?

Lack of sleep can do that with no chemical help at all.  You want to enforce bedtime, too?

I think it's wrong to take away individuals' rights to choose because of what might happen.

[Korbac]

You don't need drugs to be psychotic. Just imagine really hard.

[scrdest]

True, but what about drugs that cause psychotic episodes?

Like caffeine?

Caffeine can cause that, but rarely and in huge doses (the equivalent of 5 cups of coffee straight to the bloodstream at once). Dissociative anaesthetics, like Ketamine or Phencyclidine, have this as one of major possible side-effects due to their action.

Lack of sleep can do that with no chemical help at all.  You want to enforce bedtime, too?

I think it's wrong to take away individuals' rights to choose because of what might happen.

Just like how we let people drunk drive, because it would be wrong to take away their right to choose to do so because of what might happen?

[Funk]

im fine with drunk drivers as long as there not around other people, driving drunk on the public roads is not right as it put others at an unaccepted level of risk.

[lordcooper]

Caffeine can cause that, but rarely and in huge doses (the equivalent of 5 cups of coffee straight to the bloodstream at once). Dissociative anaesthetics, like Ketamine or Phencyclidine, have this as one of major possible side-effects due to their action.

I've probably taken ketamine at least a hundred times over the last six years or so and had two 'proper' psychotic episodes from it (although both were after taking a ridiculous quantity).  Trust me, someone who has taken that much ketamine isn't going anywhere in a hurry.  I guess they might try to stand up in a threatening manner if they're still aware that they have a body, but that's about as far as it's likely to get.

I can't really comment on PCP, having kept well away from it.

[scrdest]

I guess they might try to stand up in a threatening manner if they're still aware that they have a body.

Sigworthy.

[Onlyhestands]

Its not really that unusual of an effect. Take a high enough dosage of psychedelics and you'll experience ego death, that is losing all sense of self. Not only is somebody on a psychedelic extremely non threatening but at that dose you'd be couch-bound, at least for the peak.

[pisskop]

f)

Drugs are toxins.  They alter your tate of mind by posioning your cells or otherwise inhibiting your ability.

[Onlyhestands]

Is having sex toxic because it releases endorphins into your brain? People can become addicted to sex, should we ban it? 

Ok, sorry I was being a little combative. But drugs aren't necessarily toxic, anymore than anything else is. Granted, with certain drugs you certainly can do a lot of damage to your body, but that's not true of all of them.

[nenjin]

f)

Drugs are toxins.  They alter your tate of mind by posioning your cells or otherwise inhibiting your ability.

You could argue the same thing about consuming food. It alters your state of mind, affects your cells and in some cases, can inhibit your ability.