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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2013, 04:37:17 pm »

I stand a bit harsher than (B) but not near (A). I don't do them and I prefer my friends don't, but I have no problems with them on a large scale. Reasons:
1) Harmful, in terms of health and money.
2) I worry I may find something I like, after which I would stop living because nothing is better. I have problems.
3) The reasons to use it are basic pleasure and "expanding your mind". The first isn't worth it due to points (1) and (2). The second is something I want to do myself, not with significant aid. This dependence/independence point is also the main reason I prefer those close to me don't do them. I see it as a personal weakness.
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2013, 05:22:33 pm »

I'm practically straight-edge (b), but I:

Don't care what people put in their own bodies, as long as it doesn't endanger me.

And we need to empty the prisons of all non-violent "drug offenders".
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2013, 07:32:32 pm »

f) Most shouldn't be used carelessly; missing out on something that may be fun, educational or intense is better than messing up.

Haven't had anything apart from alcohol in a long time. Love the taste, looking just at the effects it's a pretty crummy drug imo (not least because people who can't handle their drinks are bloody annoying).
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2013, 09:16:33 pm »

f)

Honestly speaking, I'm very much against pretty much all psychoactive substances on a personal level, barring very minor stuff like caffeine. I just think its wrong to purposely impair your judgement and I find the negative effects of them disdainful. Still, I am not society by any means and I think that on the societal level they have to be allowed, albeit under restrictions to prevent large-scale abuse. Trying to ban drugs and harshly punish those who use them will clearly cause problems worse than the problems they are trying to target. So personally I would consider them wrong, but I don't think my personal beliefs should dictate the actions of society when it is clear that what works for me will not work for everyone.
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2013, 09:52:26 pm »

I'm not gonna lie.

When I do drugs, I do them for one reason: Because I enjoy it.
It's the same reason I play video games or build sandcastles or draw: I enjoy those things, so I do them.

When I first started doing marijuana, I did it to help me cope with my depression. Then I started therapy, got support, and worked through it. I still get depressed for about an average 3-5 months out of the year, but now I have support and coping skills to make it through. But I still do pot (when I can afford it) because I enjoy it.

In my view, it's not wrong unless I'm hurting someone else. I should be free to do with my own body as I please as long as it doesn't harm others. But that brings me to my next story: How I learned to not get high and drive.

I once got pretty decently stoned, then got a call from a friend that he had broken down about one third of a mile from my house. So I hopped in my car to go get him. After I picked him up, I was crossing the highway when I zoned out and got confused about which road I was on. I then started to pull into oncoming traffic. If he hadn't been sober and started yelling at me that I was going the wrong way, I'd probably be dead or severely injured right now. From that moment onwards, I've refused to drive if I've smoked within the previous 6-8 hours.

That's a lot of the reason why I'm pro-legalization, but with restrictions similar to and punishments harsher than those for alcohol.
I see it as: The guy who sits in a bar at home or in his house and gets drunk but doesn't harm anyone other than himself is fine, but the asshole who gets drunk and starts picking fights or driving or hits his wife or neglects his kids should be punished in some way.

My apologies for the wall of text.
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2013, 09:57:24 pm »

Don't care what people put in their own bodies, as long as it doesn't endanger me.
C) becouse beer tastes nice and Marijuana carm the wold down.
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2013, 10:03:53 pm »

That's a lot of the reason why I'm pro-legalization, but with restrictions similar to and punishments harsher than those for alcohol.

Why should the punishments for weed be harsher than those for alcohol? I could barely see equal punishment as reasonable, but if we're talking about driving, alcohol is probably far worse. I mean, I know it's different for everyone, which might explain why you lost so much control, but I was under the impression marijuana only caused mild motor impairment in most people as opposed to alcohol.
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2013, 10:16:51 pm »

Why should the punishments for weed be harsher than those for alcohol? I could barely see equal punishment as reasonable, but if we're talking about driving, alcohol is probably far worse. I mean, I know it's different for everyone, which might explain why you lost so much control, but I was under the impression marijuana only caused mild motor impairment in most people as opposed to alcohol.

Actually, I'd much prefer it if the punishments for alcohol were more severe too. Having dealt with an alcoholic father, alcoholic step-father, and an alcoholic brother, I can attest that punishments for alcohol related crimes tend to be a slap on the wrist.

I suppose I should have said harsher than the current punishments for alcohol in my original statement.
But as for why harsher, because I'd rather not see a bunch of idiot teenagers get stoned then go out driving and die or kill themselves because they think all they'll get is a slap on the wrist. Lost too many friends and family members that way. (To clarify, not all of those were marijuana, I've lost or seen a friend or family member hurt to pretty much every drug except maybe some of the more exotic ones like DMT)
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2013, 12:28:29 am »

I don't particularly care for them, but I don't think people should be banned from taking them, so long as they are responsible for the consequences of their actions.
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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2013, 01:45:08 am »

C/D.

I smoke cannabis most days.  Everything else (mainly hallucinogens/entheogens, but I do have a bit of a soft spot for ketamine and MDMA) is on a rarely, but in massive quantities basis.  My reasons for taking are partly spiritual in nature and partly because I simply enjoy doing so.

Disclaimer: don't take silly amounts of any drug to begin with.  Know your limits and all that.
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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2013, 01:47:45 am »

F: I'd do some of the less harmful drugs, however to do that, I'd rather wait until I'm older.
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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2013, 01:50:48 am »

F: I'd do some of the less harmful drugs, however to do that, I'd rather wait until I'm older.

That shows a lot of maturity.  I wish I'd waited a few more years before I began to indulge.
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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2013, 05:37:26 am »

B. I personally feel basically no addictive substance is beyond being used, permitting that it doesn't light your skin on fire when you take it or it doesn't have a 100% chance of death or severe impairment in other words. Some people can deal with addictiveness in a responsible manner and just use it now and again whenever they feel the need, some people jump into the deep end and never come out. Some people just don't want to use them for personal reasons. It comes down to the person, the actual drug has nothing to do with it, it doesn't have some kind of malicious will towards mankind or something. 

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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2013, 03:09:54 pm »

F: I'd do some of the less harmful drugs, however to do that, I'd rather wait until I'm older.

That shows a lot of maturity.  I wish I'd waited a few more years before I began to indulge.

Same here. Started when I was 15, and pretty much any substance that affects brain chemistry will change the growth of a growing brain, so I constantly wonder how I would have turned out if I would have held off for even a few years.
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« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2013, 03:26:05 pm »

f.

Legalize everything for personal use. Educate early and thoroughly on effects and responsible use, in the classroom and by stripping away taboos to encourage open dialogue outside the classroom.  Define and enforce suitably strict penalties for malicious or hazardously negligent behaviour toward other people and their property, regardless of the offender's state of intoxication or lack thereof.

I have one or two pints down at the pub every now and then.
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