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[DJ]

Because humans are sometimes just like other animals, and sometimes they're not, and which one it is in a specific case depends on which one is favorable to your position.

[Scoops Novel]

If we could get beyond semantics and state our courses of action. Also, can we be realists. This vat grown meat, what are it's costs, how cheap is it likely to get, and how much space and resources does that need?

[10ebbor10]

If we could get beyond semantics and state our courses of action. Also, can we be realists. This vat grown meat, what are it's costs, how cheap is it likely to get, and how much space and resources does that need?

1) For now, quite a lot, as it's all experimental equipment*. ((US$1 million for a piece of beef weighing 250 grams ))
2) Rather cheap actually. I doubt it'll ever come out cheaper, ((The Invitro meat consortium estimates that it could be produced for 3500€/tonne, twice the current unsubsidized prices))
3) Cows and other animals convert max 20% of the incoming energy in biomass. The cloning vats can get efficiencies upward of 90%, as well as producing no waste materials(all biomass is useable). As for space and resources, it's a technology that is/was being developed by NASA, in order to supply their astronauts on long voyages. So it's rather compact and efficient.

*However, scientists state that the technology is in fact ready, and only needs commercial backing.

[Vattic]

*However, scientists state that the technology is in fact ready, and only needs commercial backing.

Things must have changed a lot in the last year as the couple of interviews I heard on the subject said it was not ready at all. I thought they were having problems getting it to taste decent.

[misko27]

yes, on must note that commercial backing means being able to sell. Not even the poor will buy cheap-meat if it tastes like crap.
 
But schools will.

[Zangi]

yes, on must note that commercial backing means being able to sell. Not even the poor will buy cheap-meat if it tastes like crap.
 
But schools will.

Soup Kitchens could use the stuff.

[misko27]

yes, on must note that commercial backing means being able to sell. Not even the poor will buy cheap-meat if it tastes like crap.
 
But schools will.

Soup Kitchens could use the stuff.

No one's going to give it for free though.

[LibidoMax]

How much more unnatural could you get then with vat grown meat? I plan on eating pieces of dead animals that were really alive at some point.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

How much more unnatural could you get then with vat grown meat? I plan on eating pieces of dead animals that were really alive at some point.

Appeal to nature, and I wonder just how dedicated you'll be to your "natural" meat when the vat-grown alternative is significantly cheaper.

[The Scout]

That doesn't solve the fact people hunt. Bullets and a gun are a lot more cost efficient then buying meat, depending on where you live.

[MonkeyHead]

I would imagine people would hunt for the test of skill more than anything else, espeically if the 3D printing of meat takes off.

[penguinofhonor]

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[LibidoMax]

How much more unnatural could you get then with vat grown meat? I plan on eating pieces of dead animals that were really alive at some point.

So you're given two choices. One results in death and pain, one doesn't. The results are identical. You're saying you'd choose the former for the sake of causing death and pain?

Life is a cycle of death and pain. I'm sorry, but are we really having an ethical debate on how we treat our livestock?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

How much more unnatural could you get then with vat grown meat? I plan on eating pieces of dead animals that were really alive at some point.

So you're given two choices. One results in death and pain, one doesn't. The results are identical. You're saying you'd choose the former for the sake of causing death and pain?

Life is a cycle of death and pain. I'm sorry, but are we really having an ethical debate on how we treat our livestock?

Let me check.

The Ethics of Eating Animals

[Askot Bokbondeler]

i understand where vegetarians come from and agree that is a terrible thing that things suffer to feed me, but... what's the alternative?
imagine a world where meat is grown in vitro, or we all suddently become vegetarians... what would we do with the millions of animals that we grow for food? release them into the wild and let them die of disease, hunger and old age? what about predators? is it as immoral to let them eat other animals? should we also feed them in vitro meat? imagine that's feasible, what would we do with the uncontrolably growing fauna?