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[Frumple]

Ok, and how are you going to make a working filter for this? If you started outside Uckland you can come in, but if you left from it you can't come back?

I'unno, the filter folks complaining seem to be wanting is "IfMuslim=Refuse." S'obviously not a working filter, but what can you do?

@Grak, I can only assume it's not so much that they can't, as they won't, since that would likely entail they'd have to start doing the same thing to their sanctioned paramilitary types that do basically (and in some cases literally, going back into the past) the same thing. States, ferex, would have to be kicking out a lot of (ex-)military and current/former security agency types if they were going to throw out everyone that's fought alongside or otherwise aided an islamic radical insurgency group. And europe's groups aren't exactly squeaky clean on that field, either, heh.

[Loud Whispers]

Spoiler: Me in 30 years (click to show/hide)

[Grim Portent]

Corbyn is counter to the agenda of most of the British people.

So is basically every political party, none of them can get even as much as 40% of the vote in an election. (SNP being the exception, with 50% of the Scottish vote and still rising in the polls for the Holyrood elections.)

[Loud Whispers]

Corbyn is counter to the agenda of most of the British people.

So is basically every political party, none of them can get even as much as 40% of the vote in an election. (SNP being the exception, with 50% of the Scottish vote and still rising in the polls for the Holyrood elections.)

And basically every political party is not trying to destroy Great Britain, so what of it?

[Frumple]

... are you intentionally trying to channel the US conservative movement, LW, or is it just incidental? 'Cause I swear I hear the exact same word as you're saying come out of the mouths of people talking about mexicans and obama pretty regularly, to the point it's becoming vaguely unsettling. It's like watching Orson Scott Card talk about homosexuals, except british and talking about islam. Damnedest thing to watch, actually, now that I've noticed the incredibly uncanny resemblance. Please don't start writing about weird naked pre-salat wrestling.

[Loud Whispers]

... are you intentionally trying to channel the US conservative movement, LW, or is it just incidental?

Destroying our military, nuclear armament, fighting for the EU, so cartoonishly contrarian that he is a friend of such British friends as Argentina, Russia, Hamas and Hezbollah and has the ultimate aim of the deliberate destruction of our economy. How am I supposed to take that? His energy nationalization plans alone would cost £185bn . Keep in mind this would be nearly a third of last year's entire budget. Supposedly he would raise this money out of thin air or through increasing the corporate tax threefold but all this would mean would be that Britain would go from being the second most attractive investment area in the world to an economically dislocated mess; the reason why so much European capital is flowing into Europe is because they are panicking over the rise in continental socialism and know Britain is politically stable and has consistently championed the free market, they'll just move to New York or Singapore if we bring that socialism here. That's assuming we don't go the way of Greece because we can't afford Corbybn's borrowing schemes. Why does he want to end the right to buy scheme? It literally allows people to become homeowners over unused council housing, costing the state little to nothing whilst giving poorer families their own homes. Providing those homes at the expense of the state will just mean a rise in council tax which poor boroughs will simply not be able to afford. Seriously, the guy named "I want to overthrow capitalism" McDonnall as his finance minister, hahahahahah; he wants to destroy Britain for ideological reasons, he doesn't want to do what actually works. Literally all Labour and the Tories have to do to destroy Corbyn is run Corbyn's policies to the public. "NATO is a threat to world peace" hahahahaha he is Putin's useful idiot!
Though I do feel for a lot of my labour friends, they are considerably grumpy that Corbyn's not bringing crumpets to the table

'Cause I swear I hear the exact same word as you're saying come out of the mouths of people talking about mexicans and obama pretty regularly, to the point it's becoming vaguely unsettling.

USA and Europe are not in the same boats, if you think what I'm saying is similar to your conservatives it's more in tone than in what I'm actually saying. Largely because whilst American Republicans get their spaghetti from Fox News I actually get to enjoy hearty I TOLD YOU SO moments non stop in my 2unsettle4u boogaloo
I mean it was literally just last week how everyone was like "but LW why would ISIS smuggle fighters back to Yurop" and I was like "because it is strategically the obvious thing to do. Also they said so." And then this week another Yuro woman got opened ear to ear by an ISIS fighter who came in from a refugee camp. It will always nourish my soul that people will stick to their faith against all contrary evidence until the end, it's admirable (but not terribly pragmatic). Still, there will come a time where Yurop will look up and cry "save pls" and I shall whisper "it was just banter m8" and spaceship Britonistan will fly to Mars and die of radiation poisoning.

It's like watching Orson Scott Card talk about homosexuals, except british and talking about islam. Damnedest thing to watch, actually, now that I've noticed the incredibly uncanny resemblance. Please don't start writing about weird naked pre-salat wrestling.

Grease up your Turkish wrestlers cos we're in for a bumpy ride

*EDIT
Corrected a tiny bit of incorrect grammar

[Frumple]

... nah mate, you're saying literally the exact same things, right down to the I Told You Sos and bringing up articles about drug dealers refugees doing whatever you claimed they were going to do at some point earlier. It's not just tone, the claims, the evidence... you're pulling a dead ringer, intentionally or not. And hell, the crow man rant was even picture perfect for stuff that people said about obama. There may be difference in the situation, but from your example there's not a difference in how people are reacting to it. Resemblance really is uncanny, heh.

[notquitethere]

LW, please could you try and speak English. I need to open a bantionary every time you open your mouth.

Also, what are you chatting about? Point to a confirmed case of ISIS pretending to be refugees. It makes zero sense. Why would they sail across the Mediterranean, hoping not to drown, or walk hundreds of miles to Europe? And once there what are they going to do with no supplies or weapons? Wait in holding centres or detention centres, then make their way to their chosen country and then once there, on the pittance you get and with no support, concoct a massive attack? Top plan.

[Loud Whispers]

... nah mate, you're saying literally the exact same things, right down to the I Told You Sos and bringing up articles about drug dealers refugees doing whatever you claimed they were going to do at some point earlier. It's not just tone, the claims, the evidence... you're pulling a dead ringer, intentionally or not. And hell, the crow man rant was even picture perfect for stuff that people said about obama. There may be difference in the situation, but from your example there's not a difference in how people are reacting to it. Resemblance really is uncanny, heh.

I'll take your word for it then, it's not the first time I've been called le ebin Texan man in this thread. I'm sure if I was born in Murrica I'd be trying to usher in the new age of Mexicans. THEY WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
(It may speak considerably more spanish than usual, but sacrifices have to be made all the time).

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ANAL SEX

It dawns on me that I think everyone who would have understood this banter has probably all been banned by now, rip in Malvinas

LW, please could you try and speak English. I need to open a bantionary every time you open your mouth.

Yeah nah, I used to do this thing where I'd spend hours writing some well-structured case for what I see happening and what I thought needed to be done with everything sourced and posted with correct formats and then all the responses that would follow would be one or two sentence replies blanket ignoring everything with everyone just stating their opinions which is nice and all but if you're not going to put any effort into your response I'm just going to default shitpost cos it's quick, cheap and easy

Also, what are you chatting about? Point to a confirmed case of ISIS pretending to be refugees. It makes zero sense. Why would they sail across the Mediterranean, hoping not to drown, or walk hundreds of miles to Europe? And once there what are they going to do with no supplies or weapons? Wait in holding centres or detention centres, then make their way to their chosen country and then once there, on the pittance you get and with no support, concoct a massive attack? Top plan.

I mean I've talked over this many times and I just keep repeating myself again and again. Doesn't matter how many times I post sources, whether I shitpost it or post it seriously with full stops and all - doesn't fucking matter one bit, so I'm going to enjoy myself if it's pointless either way :P
I mean, fucking hell it's literally just one page away where I posted Bakhtiar Mohammed Abdulla and his Dutch waifu accomplice murdering Dutch Waifu's mother, after Dutch Waifu already met another unknown ISIS bloke who moved back to Sweden with his family.

Why would they sail across the Mediterranean, hoping not to drown, or walk hundreds of miles to Europe?

They don't need to sail the Med or walk the way, they just need to reach a European Union country and say they are Syrian

And once there what are they going to do with no supplies or weapons?

Well even if we ignore their massive European support just look at Mr. Khazzani; he acted without domestic support, picked up weapons in Belgium and attacked in France. Actual ISIS fighters would be even worse since they actually do have supplies and weapons in Europe.

Wait in holding centres or detention centres

"The Danes and Swedes bringing ISIS fighters back to Europe for free stuff and health checks are not a credit to Europe"

Some progressives say Aarhus should become a model for other communities in the United States and Europe that are trying to cope with the question of what to do when the jihad generation comes back to town.
For better or worse, this city’s answer has left the likes of Talha wandering freely on the streets. The son of moderate Muslim immigrants from the Middle East, he became radicalized and fought with an Islamist brigade in Syria for nine months before returning home last October. Back on Danish soil, he still dreams of one day living in a Middle Eastern caliphate. He rejects the Islamic State’s beheading of foreign hostages
but defends its summary executions of Iraqi and Syrian soldiers.

When the Islamic State terrorists are ready to retire from beheading, crucifying and burning innocent human beings, they will now enjoy a nice benefits package in Stockholm, Sweden, that includes free housing, health care and financial support.
In fact, Sweden’s own soldiers don’t even get the same benefits.
And some officials are suggesting the law-abiding population pay for the services so ISIS fighters can reintegrate into society.
The Swedish newspaper Expressen reported that councilor Rasmus Persson advocates offering terrorists jobs so they don’t feel alienated. Stockholm has released a document outlining its “strategy against violent extremism.”

Yeah how could they get past those
I did mention how Dutch waifu's first ISIS buddy went back to Sweden right and is still unknown?
And that's not even bothering to scratch the surface on all those who are just enjoying the anonymity of lax security and mass migration:

Now for comedy:

    You can see that something is fishy when most of those who cross into Serbia enter January 1 as the date of their birth
    Border police officer Miroslav Jovic
Concerns over the regulation of registering migrants at the main entry points into Europe are growing amid the revelation dubious markets selling fake Syrian passports have sprung up across Turkey.

Also some ISIS bloke said there's 4,000 ISIS fighters in Europe right now disguised as refugees. Not really news since it's kinda obvious and all, but the hilarious part? The ISIS bloke threatening Yurop with fighters? Who he reported this news to?

Buzzfeed.
Fucking Buzzfeed

then make their way to their chosen country and then once there, on the pittance you get and with no support, concoct a massive attack? Top plan.

Well you are ignoring the support network; have the index I linked earlier from my cheeki jihad book
Their biggest concerns are the British and French intelligence bureaus who have had long experiences with fighting insurgencies and identifying militants. Fool them and you can get about your business without being watched, as if you are watched then it's considerably more difficult to build networks without those networks being used against you. As for what they do once they've shaken off Frogs and Chips:

It doesn't seem like it'd make much sense for them to try to infiltrate significant numbers of militants in as refugees. After all, there are thousands of Europeans fighting for ISIS in Syria right now, and probably thousands more who are stuck at home because they can't get out there. We hear stuff all the time in the news about British nutjobs in Syria. If ISIS want militants in Europe, they could just tell some of their supporters over here to stay at home.

If you look at Libya for example, Bagdhadi told his Libyan supporters to focus on their homefront instead of the Syrian and Iraqi front. In the European case it makes perfect sense since if you've been following our British Jihadis, they've been making it absolutely clear they want to use the skills they've learned in Iraq and Syria in Britain. The ones stuck in Europe are quite worthless beyond sending money and spreading the word, because when it comes to actually planning and executing an attack and that's if they're even willing to - it's one thing to pay lip service to killing the West and it's another thing to try and kill the West. Not all of their European supporters are European fighters.
Fighters who have made their way to ISIS will have proven themselves on the battlefield, will have received training and will be able to in turn train others, will have their convictions validated by blood and need only return to their home countries to spread their influence [with the catch being getting past their home country's security checks]. From India to Britain Jihadis have been caught coming home with cash and knowledge because they were sent home by ISIS. The difference between the ones coming home and the ones staying at home is that the ones coming home actually got shit done and have higher capabilities to get shit done.
And in nations where people don't like getting beheaded, security checks exist. You'll have an easier time getting through if you say you're a Syrian refugee. With their guidance, the useless supporters stop being so useless.

Up to 1,300 European jihadists have already returned to the continent after fighting under the banner of ISIS according to 'cautious' estimates made by anti-extremism thinktank, the Tony Blair Faith Foundation.The foundation, founded by former UK prime minister Tony Blair, also believe that these returning fighters intend to wage jihad in Europe
"Returning foreign fighters are a potent force and a significant threat," Ed Husain, a senior advisor at the Foundation told Newsweek.
"As they meet other young Muslims in mosques or community centres they can portray themselves as returning heroes from the trenches of jihad in Iraq and Syria. These people have walked the walk, not just talked about it in abstract terms," Husain added.

More than one way to spread Islamic State m8i it's like marmite only with machetes and mediterraneans

[Loud Whispers]

Oh shit I confused the Dutch with the Danes, that is not good

[Descan]

Eh, who cares, they're both tiny, sea-side countries abutting Germany with no mountains. :V They even sound the same.

[notquitethere]

I mean I've talked over this many times and I just keep repeating myself again and again. Doesn't matter how many times I post sources, whether I shitpost it or post it seriously with full stops and all - doesn't fucking matter one bit, so I'm going to enjoy myself if it's pointless either way :P
I mean, fucking hell it's literally just one page away where I posted Bakhtiar Mohammed Abdulla and his Dutch waifu accomplice murdering Dutch Waifu's mother, after Dutch Waifu already met another unknown ISIS bloke who moved back to Sweden with his family.

Ah that post. That doesn't show that ISIS have a policy of infiltrating refugee centres. All it shows is that you have reading comprehension problem. Bakhtiar was an Iraqi who planned to join up with ISIS. He wasn't already their sleeper agent.

[Loud Whispers]

Ah that post. That doesn't show that ISIS have a policy of infiltrating refugee centres. All it shows is that you have reading comprehension problem. Bakhtiar was an Iraqi who planned to join up with ISIS. He wasn't already their sleeper agent.

Top lel, an Iraqi refugee and his Dane waifu kill a Dane for ISIS that's enough for me

Also some ISIS bloke said there's 4,000 ISIS fighters in Europe right now disguised as refugees. Not really news since it's kinda obvious and all, but the hilarious part? The ISIS bloke threatening Yurop with fighters? Who he reported this news to?
Buzzfeed.
Fucking Buzzfeed

One in 50 Syrian refugees entering Europe could be member of Isis, a Lebanese government minister has claimed.

Elias Bou Saab, the country's education minister, suggested as many as two per cent of refugees from Syria may be jihadis sent by the so-called Islamic State.

Breeki

Also of course our most famous Jihadi detailing what he wants to do to help career prospects in Britain.

Spoiler: And you know, they keep saying so themselves again and again they are doing it (click to show/hide)

Also whoever wrote this should check himself before he wrecks himself, because he says that in 2012 ISIS was supposedly years ahead of our intelligence services but MI6 and MI5 were already recruiting moles from 2011, possibly earlier. Of course, no one tell them that.

Also last week the French police started a manhunt in Calais in what will become France's official Calais refugee camp.

In the past year, Bosnia has arrested dozens of people on suspicion of having traveled to Iraq and Syria to fight with ISIS, or who are thought to be providing the Sunni militant group with weapons and cash. Bosnia last year passed a law that bans citizens from fighting in foreign countries.

Bosnia is just one of several countries in the Balkan region attempting to curb the number of foreign fighters flowing through their borders and recruiting domestically. The Balkans are becoming a transit point for foreigners who want to fight with ISIS. In the past several months, authorities in Bosnia, Kosovo and Bulgaria have arrested foreigners allegedly working for ISIS.

Those fighters flowing from the Balkans into Syria through Turkey are also returning home, officials said, and that is what is causing concern.

The 21-year-old was held by police in the southwestern German town of Ludwigsburg, where he was living under a false identity as an asylum seeker.

Five men have been arrested as they attempted to cross the Bulgarian-Macedonian border with decapitation videos and Islamic State propaganda on their phones. The terrorist suspects had been posing as refugees.

Bulgarian authorities near the Gyueshevo border checkpoint detained the five men, aged between 20 and 24, late on Wednesday, Bulgarian broadcaster NOVA TV reported.

The men were stopped by a border guard, who they attempted to bribe with a “wad of dollars.” However, they were searched and Islamic State propaganda, specific Jihadists prayers and decapitation videos were found on their phones.

Also more adorable Al-Britanis

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Of course never forget that the only ones who will I can post about are those who reached headlines or who carelessly publicly posted their information where I can find it. Hence with the Dane waifu, the unknown Swede remains the unknown Swede, Sweding it up in Sweden unknown.

In more news: Bagdhadi bans gruesome execution videos because it sells the wrong brand image.

Also because my jimmies have been rustled by ISIS fighters slagging off muh james bond;
British Isis jihadists 'had phones hacked by GCHQ' before they were killed by drone strikes
Years ahead my arsehole m8 you're only alive because of legal straitjackets

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Fresh news:

Islamic State fighters are taking advantage of the current migrant crisis in the Mediterranean by joining overfilled boats leaving northern Africa for Europe, according to government advisor Abdul Basit Haroun.

He told BBC 5 live Investigates that he had spoken to boat owners in areas controlled by Isis.

They told him that militants were profiting from the dangerous journey across the sea by demanding half of people smugglers’ incomes in exchange for allowing them to keep operating – and to take fighters with them.

In an interview broadcast on Sunday, Mr Haroun said that the boats were used “for their people who they want to send to Europe, as the European police don't know who is from IS and who is a normal refugee or not.”

Now is the time for cheeky nandos

Also top lel Germany's interior minister has just gone and said a quarter of Syrian refugees are not Syrian and are just claiming they are, even if they're clearly not. Don't say the Serbs didn't give you a heads up Mr Krautman

Eh, who cares, they're both tiny, sea-side countries abutting Germany with no mountains. :V They even sound the same.

Dutch and Danes will kill you if you Dane your Dutch and Dutch your Dane

[notquitethere]

Look, I'm going to break down why you're wrong on every point and then I'm going to stop arguing with you because you're obviously delighted at the prospect of thousands of hidden sleeper agents and I don't need to ruin your fun.

Top lel, an Iraqi refugee and his Dane waifu kill a Dane for ISIS that's enough for me

If the pair had killed for Satan it wouldn't prove Satan was infiltrating refugees. Your grip on reality needs tightening.

Also some ISIS bloke said there's 4,000 ISIS fighters in Europe right now disguised as refugees. Not really news since it's kinda obvious and all, but the hilarious part? The ISIS bloke threatening Yurop with fighters? Who he reported this news to?
Buzzfeed.

It's funny that you actually believe the propaganda when the logistics of it make no sense whatsoever.

One in 50 Syrian refugees entering Europe could be member of Isis, a Lebanese government minister has claimed.

The Lebanese minister said he had no facts, just his "gut feeling" that it was happening. Pro-tip: don't just google for articles that support your bizarre world-view and paste them here without reading them first.

Also of course our most famous Jihadi detailing what he wants to do to help career prospects in Britain.

Fanatics are going to be fanatic. No relevance to the refugee stuff.

Spoiler: And you know, they keep saying so themselves again and again they are doing it (click to show/hide)

What's this even from?

Also last week the French police started a manhunt in Calais in what will become France's official Calais refugee camp.

Read Claudine's comment in the article. If this is their plan, then they're a more incompetent than usual jihadi.

In the past year, Bosnia has arrested dozens of people on suspicion of having traveled to Iraq and Syria to fight with ISIS...
Those fighters flowing from the Balkans into Syria through Turkey are also returning home, officials said, and that is what is causing concern.

Yes, like Britain there are individuals who successfully manage to leave the country to fight for ISIS and some of them even manage to return. This isn't news and it doesn't mean ISIS has a mass policy of infiltrating refugees which is the bizarre and paranoid article of belief that I'm specifically objecting to.

The 21-year-old was held by police in the southwestern German town of Ludwigsburg, where he was living under a false identity as an asylum seeker.

Yes, he had a false identity as an asylum seeker. I can't see that he actually tried to seek asylum.

Five men have been arrested as they attempted to cross the Bulgarian-Macedonian border with decapitation videos and Islamic State propaganda on their phones. The terrorist suspects had been posing as refugees.

Bulgarian authorities near the Gyueshevo border checkpoint detained the five men, aged between 20 and 24, late on Wednesday, Bulgarian broadcaster NOVA TV reported.

The men were stopped by a border guard, who they attempted to bribe with a “wad of dollars.” However, they were searched and Islamic State propaganda, specific Jihadists prayers and decapitation videos were found on their phones.

Ugh, Breitbart. This just shows what a ludicrous plan infiltrating refugees actually is, as if they take anything actually useful for being a terrorist they're easily spotted. Five idiots at the Bulgarian border is not equal to '4,000 ISIS fighters' or '1/50 refugees' or whatever bullshit figure your cleaving to.

Islamic State fighters are taking advantage of the current migrant crisis in the Mediterranean by joining overfilled boats leaving northern Africa for Europe, according to government advisor Abdul Basit Haroun.

It's funny they call him a 'government advisor', he's actually a British-Libyan gun runner for the rebels. Are these the same smugglers that purposefully sink their boats? The thing is, this just really doesn't strike me as a plausible plan. I'm not saying there are 100% zero IS-friendly people among the refugees, I'm sure they have a range of beliefs, but thinking that instead of concentrating on their war on three+ fronts, the IS top brass would send off thousands of men to drown or starve or be caught or imprisoned or robbed, when they could just fly people to the desired country as per usual. Tourist visas and fake passports are a thing, in case you wondered.

[Reelya]

Yup, tourist visas avoids the whole government / UNhcr process that asylum seekers have to go through.

But I think the best evidence that it's paranoid and insane is that terrorist attacks by refugees are basically unknown. There's a long history of refugees from war-torn countries of all ethnicities and ideologies, but there's no history of asylum-seekers systematically launching terrorist attacks. We've had rumors of terrorists lurking in refugee boats for decades. But there's a real shortage of actual attacks that have happened. So, why should we believe those rumors now?

Islamic terrorists have apparently never found it practical to disguise attackers as refugees before (or if they have, nothing has actual come of it). Lots of refugees came from Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 10-15 years, and there's been a shortage of the mass terrorist attacks from those refugees that every media outlet said would happen.

We'd need some damn good evidence to believe that this specific wave of refugees is any different to the last 15 years worth of refugees.