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[Ukrainian Ranger]

Losses is not something that is easy to count due to propaganda but why do you think that Russia is having less causalities than it had in Ichkeria?

Russian official figure for First Chechen War is 5,732 in 21 month war. It is ~250 per month.

Chechen army didn't have its own artillery\tanks\IFVs like Ukrainian Army.

[mainiac]

Weren't the numbers of troops involved much higher?

[Owlbread]

Weren't the numbers of troops involved much higher?

Yes, and they were also all reported. How can Russia keep 2,000 deaths "secret"?

[mainiac]

How can Russia keep 2,000 deaths "secret"?

Sloppily it seems.

[Sergarr]

The validness of that "2000" number is in my opinion about on the same level as that of dozens of destroyed Russian columns by brave Ukrainian soldiers. No factual evidence, anyone can make this shit up.

And now, time for some actual information.

Spoiler: Guess where and when was this picture taken? (click to show/hide)

[scrdest]

Luhansk, when... No idea.

[SirQuiamus]

Iraqi T-80s during the second Gulf War?

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Weren't the numbers of troops involved much higher?

Yes, and they were also all reported. How can Russia keep 2,000 deaths "secret"?

http://gruz200.net/ubitye here is a Russian language site with a list of KIA Russian citizens. Each with links to social networks or some other proof. It has something like 500 names.

[Sergarr]

Luhansk, when... No idea.

August, 2014.

Remember when the Ukrainian army, before then slowly winning, has been routed in a span of two weeks? Apparently there were our T-90s there, like those one of the picture, and they've taken a part in dismantling UAF's offensive forces. Given that UAF have not managed to capture (even as a wreckage) a single one of them, it seems pretty obvious that we could've easily pressed the counter-attack further on, if not for political decisions aimed for "Minsk peace resolutions" and other crap that, as it was apparent to everyone who wasn't an idiot, wasn't going to work out.

[scrdest]

Luhansk, when... No idea.

August, 2014.

Remember when the Ukrainian army, before then slowly winning, has been routed in a span of two weeks? Apparently there were our T-90s there, like those one of the picture, and they've taken a part in dismantling UAF's offensive forces. Given that UAF have not managed to capture (even as a wreckage) a single one of them, it seems pretty obvious that we could've easily pressed the counter-attack further on, if not for political decisions aimed for "Minsk peace resolutions" and other crap that, as it was apparent to everyone who wasn't an idiot, wasn't going to work out.

Well, then again, if they *were* captured, it would be kinda incriminating, wouldn't it?

[Culise]

Yeah.  I don't think the Ukrainians operate anything newer than the T-80 and T-84 series, so a captured T-90 would almost be a dead giveaway.  As for that image?  The answer was already given, but for the actual person responsible, it was a foolish tanker posting selfies to social media. 

[wobbly]

Yeah.  I don't think the Ukrainians operate anything newer than the T-80 and T-84 series, so a captured T-90 would almost be a dead giveaway.  As for that image?  The answer was already given, but for the actual person responsible, it was a foolish tanker posting selfies to social media.

Good to know military discipline is keeping up with the times.

[notquitethere]

Hey, Ukranian Ranger, what do you think about the new laws in Ukraine about distancing from (erasing?) your Soviet past?

[Ukrainian Ranger]

25 years late

[Owlbread]

I can't see that "People's Friendship Arch" lasting very long.