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[Owlbread]

Northern Ireland is now the only place in the UK and Ireland with no equal marriage legislation.

[scriver]

What about Isle of Man?

[Owlbread]

What about Isle of Man?

I don't know about the Manx, they have odd laws though. They're also not part of the UK or Ireland so I avoided referring to the Isles as a whole.

The last I checked same sex marriage is illegal on the Isle of Man and buggery is a criminal offence if it involves more than two people. If more than two are present then it's considered public.

[Jerick]

So, uh, hey. Apparently go ireland? Looks like enough of the count is in that anything but yes happening on the same-sex marriage legalization is impossible. Something like 3/4ths of the country's been tallied, from what I can tell, with only one district or whatever they are coming out no and everyone else coming out pretty decisively (as in, many places had a 2:1 yes to no ratio) yes.

Cheers to 'em for apparently becoming the first country to legalize it by direct public referendum.

E: Make that 40 of the 43 constituencies, total support at 60-something percent. For voting, that's pretty incredible.

E2: And apparently it's passed. 60+% turnout, 60+% approval, something like 36% nay votes. Congratulations, ireland!

As a proud and straight Irish man I'm very pleased with this result but not surprised. The large turnout and high votes for yes effectively sink any imaginable challenges to this being implemented. Weird to think that this is the same place that in 1993 was defending it's right to ban being gay to the European Courts (they lost and our government where forced to decriminalise it). Here we are a little over two decades latter and two of every three people are ignoring the once unquestioned Church's calls to vote no and all the political parties with seats officially support a yes vote. It's a very different place now from when I was born. How come I never noticed the change? Cause it's a good change.

[mainiac]

Ukraine is on a verge of technical default after just one year of new government's rule, and somehow it's Russia that's the loser?

That's some weird reality you're living in.

Oh no, if they default they'd probably see their currency lose 25% or 50% of it's value.

[Sergarr]

Ukraine is on a verge of technical default after just one year of new government's rule, and somehow it's Russia that's the loser?

That's some weird reality you're living in.

Oh no, if they default they'd probably see their currency lose 25% or 50% of it's value.

U sure about that it'll be limited to that? What about "hyper-inflation", weren't you predicting that it'll happen to Russia, in similar circumstances?

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I actually hope that this "right to stop foreign debt payments if needed" will be used against Russia and it will be the only country we will use it against.

Sure, Russia will go to international court and more, but it can win several years of time and we always can go "First Russia should pay hundred of billions of fines for occupation, then we will repay our debts"

Sadly, I doubt our government have balls to do just this and they will continue paying money to the country we are at war with.


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I think he means - that if default risk was as real as article says, Ukrainian currency would lose 25-50% in a matter of days not stay stable

[Guardian G.I.]

For some reason I think that Ukraine's Western backers will simply agree not to call Ukraine's refusal to pay debts to Russia a default, the rest will follow them without asking questions, and it will not be regarded as a default in the long run.

[Sergarr]

Ukraine's debt to Russia is not very significant (3 billion $), compared to the, you know, actual reason behind this law (private companies wanting their money on the loans and refusing to accept "restructurization", 23 billion $ total).

[Owlbread]

I just saw photographs of Gerry Adams, leader of Sinn Fein (former political wing of the IRA) taking selfies and celebrating the referendum result with Panti Bliss, one of the tá campaign figureheads and apparently the most famous drag queen in Ireland, as well as Frances Fitzgerald, justice minister for the whole republic.

Spoiler: Eire Nua indeed. (click to show/hide)

[mainiac]

U sure about that it'll be limited to that? What about "hyper-inflation", weren't you predicting that it'll happen to Russia, in similar circumstances?

No actually, I was pretty clear that wasn't going to happen.

But thanks for playing!

[Owlbread]

Things really don't look good for the last Lib Dem MP in Scotland. A by election seems really likely now because if he refuses to stand down for lying barefaced to his constituents and abusing his position he may be brought before the standards committee and his 10 day suspension would cause a by election. The Guardian has given a good report on the situation, meanwhile the Herald say the great buffoon has become "caught in his own tangled web of deceit".

As I said yesterday this may lead to a 57th SNP MP. Who knows, it depends how hard the Lib Dems fight.

[Sergarr]

A politician may face consequences for lying?

 

[Owlbread]

A politician may face consequences for lying?

 

I know, Carmichael's only crime in the eyes of his peers is likely that he got caught. The way in which he did the smearing + lying though was really shady/sneaky and he has totally destroyed his good reputation. I used to respect him because although I always thought he was a stupid man he seemed to be a decent, fundamentally good person, but the "Nikileaks" fiasco showed he is kind of a snake.

[notquitethere]

I guess he must have thought he was so clever at the time.